No Porsche for me...

[Morelli]

No need to defend your honor people, as it seems that this is what you are doing.

I am simply disappointed with my experience. Bottom line. I'm not necessarily looking for your worlds smallest violins or rolled eyes, as it is somewhat childish. Personally, I am a man with no patience, and this car happened to wear mine thin...membrane thin...I honestly expected more from it, and even though everything that went wrong was somewhat routine, it all fell in a way that made me just not want the car any more. I am very, very picky about cars. Put it like this...I live in LA. I drive to Vegas all of the time...and I would NOT feel good driving it to Vegas. There is no way I would entertain the thought of driving it to Vegas. That is pretty much my deciding factor. That means I am no longer comfortable with it, simple as that.

Plus, I am entertaining the thought of dropping a 1JZ-GTE into the SC300, that's the Japanese Toyota Soarer engine, 2.5L turbocharged...with a small amount of tweeking, she'll run past 911's. The SC is a severely underrated car, with an engine that routinely runs past 200k miles.

Hell, at least I can have back seats again. :ah:

[Porschev]

Morelli I am sorry to hear this.
And definitely I can understand this, I just remember my face holding those bills. Even the simplest problem, O2 sensors. Why to put 4 of them there, look to other cars, 1-2, but not 4, the total expense is around 430$.
However I can really understand the other point of view, for which purpose you need all those additional cost. In my humble opinion, they all perfect, the inspirational point for all other cars. The picture is painted, and dyes are dried, that all, use it.
Another idea, i think Porsche are not primary cars, they should have a substitute, that save you energy, money and most important your mental health. I am pretty sure that if you have a back up, you will fill yourself more secure. Something happened, and you have no energy to deal with it, put to the garage, and drive your toyota corrolla. One day, then you will fill inspiration, go and solve the problem.
In sense of Lexus, better buy Toyota, at least they are not overpriced, and less problems. But then you are buying porsche, or other horses from scuderias, expect that they will have a bigger problems. DDDDAAAAAA.
From now you can say, I was once a PORSCHE OWNER, and it sound much more different then saying I am a LEXUS OWNER.
With wishing you many years of excellent health and success
porschev

[Porschekid]

You complain about routine problems on your last car but are thinking about doing a JDM turbo engine swap into your next one? This would be a good time to bring out the rolled eyes...

[gRed04]

Morelli I hear you loud and clear on this.

I don't understand all the maybe your not the right person for the car BS.

I don't consider a 6yr / 57K mile car to be some dinosaur, high mileage, over the hill vehicle. That others just accept all the problems as it is the price you pay for such a technical wonder is a joke.

As you can probably tell 1st time owner here but have been driving other German cars for the last 10 years including my DD 02 330Ci ( 67K without a single problem ).

I hope that that my pcar will perform to my expectations ( both performance AND RELIABILITY ).

I do really like the pcar but will drop it like a hot potato if I start experiencing problems. My time and patience are worth more to me than an insignia.

[Brucelee]

"I don't consider a 6yr / 57K mile car to be some dinosaur, high mileage, over the hill vehicle. That others just accept all the problems as it is the price you pay for such a technical wonder is a joke."

I am not here to defend the Boxster nor to slam Lexus. I am a fan of both. And your opinion about Porsche is based on some very limited data on one 6 yr old car.

The comments we made about a 6 yr old car are valid however. Whatever car you buy that is 6 yrs old or has 57K miles on it, it WOULD NOT be surprising to have something like an O2 sensor or MAF sensor go bad. If you are skeptical of that, simply pick out a car, go to a forum on the car and sample the owner's comments.

As I pointed out, I have had a number of issues with older Lexus' autos (SC in particular) and if you go on the SC forums out there, there are TONS of repair issues that folks deal with everyday with older SCs.

This does not knock Lexus reliability, as the JD Power data is clear on who good these cars are. Then again, that same data has Porsche near the top most years.

So, all I have been saying is that there IS NO PERFECT USED CAR! THEY WILL ALL NEED REPAIRS OF SOME TYPE.

I do think you are not temperamentally set up for a Porsche and that is fine by me. There is no one car for everyone and you will just have to find yours elsewhere.

Again, good luck to you!

[Morelli]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

This does not knock Lexus reliability, as the JD Power data is clear on who good these cars are. Then again, that same data has Porsche near the top most years.

I'm going with a 1997 SC. It has 5 stars across the board in all JD Power ratings. The 99 Boxster I have has 3 stars in some, and 5 in others.

The main reason that I am getting rid of it is because I only really have two choices on who fixes my car. 1) dealer, or 2) Porsche tuner. The dealer costs far too much, and the tuner takes me an hour to get to, and is only open during my work hours. As I mentioned, even for the SMALLEST problem, I am carless for at least a week. It just doesn't pencil out for me. Anyone can fix the Lexus, and it can be done the same day at the mechanic around the corner. But everyone I take the Porsche two save for these two places...have no clue what they are looking at. That is the biggest deciding factor...as much as I love driving an NSX, it's not my car and I don't like driving cars that I don't own.

I too am surprised at the fervent defense from some of you. The car isn't the right car for me...it's not the end of the world. =)

PS: And if I decide to drop in a JDM 1JZ-GTE, it'll be fine...I know my way around those engines like the back of my hand.

[gRed04]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

I do think you are not temperamentally set up for a Porsche and that is fine by me. There is no one car for everyone and you will just have to find yours elsewhere.

Hey your not going to make me give it back already? I just got the damn thing

You are right on with this though. Patience and understanding has never been my
strong suit.

Hoping to be a long term pcar owner.

[RandallNeighbour]

Morelli, I think you made a good decision, although I'm sad you are no longer a Boxster owner. If you don't have a dependable daily driver, life is full of angst and woe. My Honda or my Lexus do a great job of getting me back and forth to work every day in comfort... the Lexus being the more comfortable ride without a doubt, but the fuel economy is so much better in the Honda that I drive that most of the time.

If I had purchased my old boxster as a daily driver, I think I would have sold it months ago. It was simply an undependable car when I took posession of it, and I would have had more time off from work getting it fixed than I could tolerate, and I am the boss of my own company and I can come and go as I please.

But, my old Boxster is very dependable now (and by "now" I mean this very minute, not tomorrow when my aging radiator fluid reservoir cracks and fills my rear trunk with liquid gold or radiator fluid as it's commonly known)... although I'd never drive it every day in Houston. Every time I have to sit in 95 degree bumper-to-bumper traffic for an hour I arrive home in a very bad mood indeed. My back hurts from all the clutch use, and my backside--especially the skin near my wallet--hurts from the thought of all the clutch wear! My 2.5 also guzzles fuel in stop and go traffic. and if I'm going to burn 3.20 premium, it's gonna be while driving nice and fast on a deserted road somewhere!

But I like it and won't sell it unless I get in terrible financial condition. It's paid for and far too much fun to drive when the weather is nice! I hope you can get another one as a second car, one that needs little and is owned as a pleasure ride!

[Morelli]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Morelli, I think you made a good decision, although I'm sad you are no longer a Boxster owner. If you don't have a dependable daily driver, life is full of angst and woe. My Honda or my Lexus do a great job of getting me back and forth to work every day in comfort... the Lexus being the more comfortable ride without a doubt, but the fuel economy is so much better in the Honda that I drive that most of the time.

If I had purchased my old boxster as a daily driver, I think I would have sold it months ago. It was simply an undependable car when I took posession of it, and I would have had more time off from work getting it fixed than I could tolerate, and I am the boss of my own company and I can come and go as I please.

But, my old Boxster is very dependable now (and by "now" I mean this very minute, not tomorrow when my aging radiator fluid reservoir cracks and fills my rear trunk with liquid gold or radiator fluid as it's commonly known)... although I'd never drive it every day in Houston. Every time I have to sit in 95 degree bumper-to-bumper traffic for an hour I arrive home in a very bad mood indeed. My back hurts from all the clutch use, and my backside--especially the skin near my wallet--hurts from the thought of all the clutch wear! My 2.5 also guzzles fuel in stop and go traffic. and if I'm going to burn 3.20 premium, it's gonna be while driving nice and fast on a deserted road somewhere!

But I like it and won't sell it unless I get in terrible financial condition. It's paid for and far too much fun to drive when the weather is nice! I hope you can get another one as a second car, one that needs little and is owned as a pleasure ride!

My sentiments.

The Porsche is paid for, and I could just as easily buy another car but I have no need for an extra car, and no room for one. And yeah, mine was a daily driver, and I drive in LA traffic. No fun.