09-14-2019, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by particlewave
I was simply pointing out how you are contributing to the division in this country.
Here’s a shocker for you: I didn’t vote for Trump (and you did, long after his comment you’re going on about).
But, he is our president and I 100% believe that he has our country’s best interests in mind.
Is he a clown? Absolutely. Does he go about things the right way? More often no than yes.
But, again, he is our president and I respect the office and the will of the voters that elected him.
If you don’t like him, show it with your vote. Don’t cry over spilled milk.
My paycheck is bigger than ever, unemployment is down, economy booming...the only downside I see is the division that has mostly been caused by the pissed off left nitpicking every gaffe or wild conspiracy theory they can come up with.
I really hate to do it because I do believe you’re a good guy who’s perception has been warped, possibly by friends, the MSM, family, but I have chosen to ignore those that want to see our country divided.
I slipped up by reading and posting here, but I’m done and have to add you to my short ignore list.
Best of luck! 
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You can respect the Office of the Presidency by defending its integrity and demanding integrity from him. Demand that he doesn't call American cities "Rat infested", Also, respect those who DIDN'T vote for him, which, BTW are 3 million more that those of us who did. Unless you believe his nonsense that 3 million "illigals" voted. Put me in the rising ranks of those who regret our vote. But I digress.
Fact: The economy, stock market and unemployment are on the EXACT same trajectory they were when he took office. He hasn't made anything better. On the contrary we're on the brink of a recession, thanks in large part to his trade war with China.
And just because I disagree with you, MY perception is warped? If you still think he has America's best interest in mind, I have some great land in Florida to sell you. He's sending troops to spend the night in his resorts, on our dime. He's profiting from the office. He kisses the ass of Putin and Kim over the objections of our own intelligence community. We had to pull one of our top spies in Russia because he can't stop blabbering intelligence. That's ANOTHER fact. Do you know how big of an intelligence loss that is? This will hurt us for YEARS, because no one knows how long it'll take to get someone else. His only interest is himself and his wallet. Period. If you still believe anything else, I really don't know what to say.
And if you add me to your ignore list, it's no skin off my back. I won't. I'll still read your posts, because I can handle differences in opinions. But facts? There should be no difference there.
Best wishes.
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09-14-2019, 06:29 AM
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Who's askin'?
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Finally, piper, something that isn't simply more of your personal attacks at the president. Seriously; go back and read your last post with an open mind. You'll realize that of the entire post, this is the only meat there. Everything else is conspiracy theory crap, and attacks at the individual. You yelling "fact" in front of a statement doesn't magically make it so.
So let's take the one bone you've thrown.
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Originally Posted by piper6909
Fact: The economy, stock market and unemployment are on the EXACT same trajectory they were when he took office. He hasn't made anything better. On the contrary we're on the brink of a recession, thanks in large part to his trade war with China.
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Your first sentence is NOT fact. And you saying it more aggressively won't make it so. The truth is that, while the economy was improving before president trump, it was doing so very, VERY slowly. The argument is frequently made by economists all over the country that it HAD to improve, because during Obama's presidency we saw some of the worst economic times of the last 50 years. There was nowhere to go but up.
Now we find ourselves in the longest period of economic expansion in the nation's history. The pressure is for it to drop. None of the key indicators point to recession except this one: How long can this really go on?
Now if you'd like my OPINION (which is what YOU give us after you say "FACT"). My opinion is that 4 weeks ago the MSM and democratic presidential candidates started talking about this "looming recession" for the single purpose of negating what will most certainly be trump's campaign dialogue: "it's the economy, stupid". Because if they can't beat the economy, they can't beat trump. And beating trump is MUCH more important to them than the health of our economy. (Both sides of the aisle have made winning a priority over what's best for the country for several years now. It disgusts me. )
Now piper, I've addressed your unreasonable rants and histrionics with calm, reasonable discussion. Think you can do the same?
If you can't, then this is the last of my posts in this thread. (Unless I need an uber)
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09-14-2019, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maytag
Finally, piper, something that isn't simply more of your personal attacks at the president. Seriously; go back and read your last post with an open mind. You'll realize that of the entire post, this is the only meat there. Everything else is conspiracy theory crap, and attacks at the individual. You yelling "fact" in front of a statement doesn't magically make it so.
So let's take the one bone you've thrown.
Your first sentence is NOT fact. And you saying it more aggressively won't make it so. The truth is that, while the economy was improving before president trump, it was doing so very, VERY slowly. The argument is frequently made by economists all over the country that it HAD to improve, because during Obama's presidency we saw some of the worst economic times of the last 50 years. There was nowhere to go but up.
Now we find ourselves in the longest period of economic expansion in the nation's history. The pressure is for it to drop. None of the key indicators point to recession except this one: How long can this really go on?
Now if you'd like my OPINION (which is what YOU give us after you say "FACT"). My opinion is that 4 weeks ago the MSM and democratic presidential candidates started talking about this "looming recession" for the single purpose of negating what will most certainly be trump's campaign dialogue: "it's the economy, stupid". Because if they can't beat the economy, they can't beat trump. And beating trump is MUCH more important to them than the health of our economy. (Both sides of the aisle have made winning a priority over what's best for the country for several years now. It disgusts me. )
Now piper, I've addressed your unreasonable rants and histrionics with calm, reasonable discussion. Think you can do the same?
If you can't, then this is the last of my posts in this thread. (Unless I need an uber)
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Sorry, Maytag. Facts are facts and here's my proof.
FACT: Unemployment has been on the decline since 2010, after recovering from the Great Recession.
From 2010 to 2016, unemployment dropped by 5 points. Since Rump took office in Jan 2016, it dropped by 1.3 That's a FACT.
Source: National Employment Monthly Update
FACT: Stock has been rising since 2010. Again, after recovering from the Great Recession. It's on the same Trajectory today:
Source: https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years
FACT: Economy is on the same trajectory as it was when Rump took office. (I was wrong. It's NOT, it's actually going DOWN. So I stand corrected.)
Source: https://www.bea.gov/news/glance
You can argue with my opinions all you want, you can't argue with facts and sources. Want to argue with history?
So I've provided facts and backed them up with sources. What have you?
Actually, your argument that the economy had nowhere to go but up, is, in fact opinion. And I respect that, however, my counter-argument is that it's been called the Great Recession because it wasn't the 2nd Great Depression. To say it had nowhere to go but up just doesn't hold water. It could have continued to go down. Unfortunately, neither of us can prove a negative, so we'll leave it at that. but it COULD have gone down, thankfully it didn't.
EDIT: And there you go twisting history when you say "during Obama's presidency we saw the worst economic times in 50 years." In fact, Obama was HANDED that economy from Bush, then he turned it around. Facts matter.
Last edited by piper6909; 09-14-2019 at 07:24 AM.
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09-14-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by piper6909
You can respect the Office of the Presidency by defending its integrity and demanding integrity from him. Demand that he doesn't call American cities "Rat infested", Also, respect those who DIDN'T vote for him, which, BTW are 3 million more that those of us who did. Unless you believe his nonsense that 3 million "illigals" voted. Put me in the rising ranks of those who regret our vote. But I digress.
Fact: The economy, stock market and unemployment are on the EXACT same trajectory they were when he took office. He hasn't made anything better. On the contrary we're on the brink of a recession, thanks in large part to his trade war with China.
And just because I disagree with you, MY perception is warped? If you still think he has America's best interest in mind, I have some great land in Florida to sell you. He's sending troops to spend the night in his resorts, on our dime. He's profiting from the office. He kisses the ass of Putin and Kim over the objections of our own intelligence community. We had to pull one of our top spies in Russia because he can't stop blabbering intelligence. That's ANOTHER fact. Do you know how big of an intelligence loss that is? This will hurt us for YEARS, because no one knows how long it'll take to get someone else. His only interest is himself and his wallet. Period. If you still believe anything else, I really don't know what to say.
And if you add me to your ignore list, it's no skin off my back. I won't. I'll still read your posts, because I can handle differences in opinions. But facts? There should be no difference there.
Best wishes.
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I wanna hear about that land...
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09-14-2019, 09:45 AM
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I wanna hear about that land...
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Prime building lot!  
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