Pedros Techno DOF IMS fix?

[Kirk]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Science? What science?

I can step outside the door of my office, walk out into the factory where I work and see THOUSANDS of examples where the science behind the direct oil feed system is working today, right now, and has been working here since 1973, 24 hrs/day, 350 days/year. This is nothing new and there are thousands of factories around the world the same as mine. The APPLICATION of this lubrication technology is new to the IMS problem, but this is not, by any stretch, a new idea or new technology or new science. Direct oil lubrication of a ball bearing is very old and very well proven. It is not going to ruin your bearing. It is not going to make your AOS explode. It's just going to lubricate the bearing, reduce wear, and make it run cooler.

Kirk Bristol

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Kirk

I can step outside the door of my office, walk out into the factory where I work and see THOUSANDS of examples where the science behind the direct oil feed system is working today, right now, and has been working here since 1973, 24 hrs/day, 350 days/year. This is nothing new and there are thousands of factories around the world the same as mine. The APPLICATION of this lubrication technology is new to the IMS problem, but this is not, by any stretch, a new idea or new technology or new science. Direct oil lubrication of a ball bearing is very old and very well proven. It is not going to ruin your bearing. It is not going to make your AOS explode. It's just going to lubricate the bearing, reduce wear, and make it run cooler.

Kirk Bristol

Are those machines powered by M96 engines?

The biggest mistake that can be made is treating this engine like any other machine. Thats the opening line in both my WTI Engine Mechanical Class as well as my M96 102 Engine Rebuild School.

[Kirk]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Are those machines powered by M96 engines?

The biggest mistake that can be made is treating this engine like any other machine. Thats the opening line in both my WTI Engine Mechanical Class as well as my M96 102 Engine Rebuild School.

Jake, I hear what you're saying, but at the same time I use exactly the same tools to work on a M96 engine as I do an air cooled 2.7L as I do my wife's LS2 in her GTO. There is no vodoo magic to the workings of the Porsche engines. They are indeed machines and are just as subject to the laws of physics and science that make the machines in my factory work. Are you suggesting that what bearing manufacturers, scientists, and researchers have learned about oil lubrication of bearings over decades and decades should not be applied to Porsche engines because they are "special"?

Kirk Bristol

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by Kirk

I can step outside the door of my office, walk out into the factory where I work and see THOUSANDS of examples where the science behind the direct oil feed system is working today, right now, and has been working here since 1973, 24 hrs/day, 350 days/year. This is nothing new and there are thousands of factories around the world the same as mine. The APPLICATION of this lubrication technology is new to the IMS problem, but this is not, by any stretch, a new idea or new technology or new science. Direct oil lubrication of a ball bearing is very old and very well proven. It is not going to ruin your bearing. It is not going to make your AOS explode. It's just going to lubricate the bearing, reduce wear, and make it run cooler.

Kirk Bristol

Yes, proven indeed however it requires "SAE" oil and it to be surgically clean. How on earth are you applying this to a IC motor often contaminated with fuel and glycol exactly?!

The seal on your IMS bearing is made of edacrylonitrile butadiene in case one needs to use science to make sense of things. The other questions you may want to ask yourself is why it is sealed per design, and what eats the seal off the bearing, again, before you think about giving it more of what may destroyed it at first place.

Again, change your oil frequently, have your MAF/O2 air and fuel distribution spot-on and your bearing will work perfectly as designed and will live forever like on thousands of other pcars.

So simple

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Kirk

"The APPLICATION of this lubrication technology is new to the IMS problem"

That part of your statement is fact, the rest is pure supposition without supporting data............

[thom4782]

Kirk:

If unsealed dual row LN bearings don't fail, then the discussion of oil volume doesn't matter. Splash lubrication is adequate by definition in a zero failure world. And that's the hurdle DOF must overcome given its marketing positioning.

[JAAY]

I just ordered the dof and a new steel dual row bearing. Maybe it won't solve the issue but it sure as heck won't hurt it. It will provide more lubrication and it will cool it. That's enough fact for me to use it.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

That part of your statement is fact, the rest is pure supposition without supporting data............

Is it really "new" if it was applied in 2007?

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Is it really "new" if it was applied in 2007?

Not sure I understand your question Jake..........

[Jake Raby]

I quoted the wrong post :-)

This is what it should have been:

Originally Posted by Kirk
"The APPLICATION of this lubrication technology is new to the IMS problem"