Oil system mods for Track

[WorkInProgressK]

Originally Posted by Qmulus

The oil cooling is not the big issue on a track car. Oil supply to the bearings is, and no added capacity oil pan, X51 baffles, dual scavenge pumps, etc., or even Accusump will solve it. Those are "peace of mind" fixes for street cars, but don't really solve the basic problem of oil control in the engine. The only true way to keep a tracked M96 or M97 alive is a dry sump system. You might be able to get away with some of the band aids for a while on some tracks, but sooner or later you will lose the bearings.

But those failures could be prevented by replacing the bearings with a refresh. The issue is that unless you need an engine to last a long period of time, refreshing it would be more cost effective.

On the subject of the cooler. Wouldn't having a better cooler cancel the benefits of running thicker oil? Wouldn't running a lighter fluid provide better flow and protection to areas with smaller passages? I know the argument about tracked(daily drivers) cars need thicker oil, but that is considering that oil will rise much higher then stock, lowering its weight to a more suitable thickness.

Also more heat taken from the oil = more heat in the coolant = higher average engine temperate. No idea if that is more suitable then a high but acceptable oil temperature with lower coolant temperatures.

[steved0x]

Originally Posted by WorkInProgressK

Also more heat taken from the oil = more heat in the coolant = higher average engine temperate. No idea if that is more suitable then a high but acceptable oil temperature with lower coolant temperatures.

I have seen some approaches like with the LN or TuneRSMotorSports oil/water heat exchanger delete plate that split the oil cooling and the water cooling. Supposedly less load on the water cooling system, but you have to fit an external air to oil cooler to make up for the loss of the oil/water heat exchanger.

[Gelbster]

Originally Posted by steved0x

I have seen some approaches like with the LN or TuneRSMotorSports oil/water heat exchanger delete plate that split the oil cooling and the water cooling. Supposedly less load on the water cooling system, but you have to fit an external air to oil cooler to make up for the loss of the oil/water heat exchanger.

And it has to be fan-cooled so it is difficult to find space for all that bulk unless you place it in the trunk and ventilate it also.If you fit a minimalist exhaust - that creates some space as Mr.Stone has shown in some links.

[WorkInProgressK]

Originally Posted by Gelbster

And it has to be fan-cooled so it is difficult to find space for all that bulk unless you place it in the trunk and ventilate it also.If you fit a minimalist exhaust - that creates some space as Mr.Stone has shown in some links.

I would say, thermostated sandwich plate with an E30 styled cooler located right under the oil filter attached to the brace plate would be easy to incorporate. We would have to test to see if the oil cooks at idle, but usually only at WOT that you start cooking oil.

[Gelbster]

Originally Posted by WorkInProgressK

I would say, thermostated sandwich plate with an E30 styled cooler located right under the oil filter attached to the brace plate would be easy to incorporate. We would have to test to see if the oil cooks at idle, but usually only at WOT that you start cooking oil.

Plenty of Mocal/Setrab units in every shape and size. Just depends where you make the space.The space is the problem.