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Old 04-28-2016, 11:33 AM   #1
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I self moderate. I don't allow myself to get sucked into the webernets arguments. The leaders of this type of nonsense will drag you in, pull you down to their level and beat you with their experience. Like wrestling a pig, you will get filthy, the pig will win and will like it.

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Old 04-28-2016, 11:54 AM   #2
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I too self moderate, sometimes throwing in my 3 cents Canadian, 2 cents American other times just grabbing some popcorn & an adult beverage and watch. 99.9% of the time things here are friendly and copacetic.

Sometimes there is mud slinging but it is nowhere near as confrontational as Rennlist. It is way more inclusive and sharing here. And it is a lot easier to navigate.

That said, a moderator to keep things cleaned up administration wise would be nice. But let's keep this a 986 first forum. 987, 981 . . hell 996 are welcome because they all share something with the 986 but the emphasis on our cars is most important i believe.

So here's to us and happy Boxstering!
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:01 PM   #3
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What? We dont have moderators? i have been refraining myself all this time from insulting everybody for no reason! Lol
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:04 PM   #4
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What? We dont have moderators? i have been refraining myself all this time from insulting everybody for no reason! Lol
Well now you can let 'er rip!!
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:29 PM   #5
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What? We dont have moderators? i have been refraining myself all this time from insulting everybody for no reason! Lol
Actually, it's been made clear I can't talk about cats anymore.

They do keep tabs occasionally. Mark was very cool about it.
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:51 PM   #6
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We don't need no stink-in Moderators

I would agree that some sort of Voting/Like/Dislike/Disguised against threads that go out side the box or Boxster

Freedom of Speech and all.

Part of the appeal and draw of a forum like this is having some very knowledge and professional contributors that can set the less knowledgeable and learning(Me) on to the right path.

Bashing will drive away those in the know, keep new away and drive the rest of us somewhere else
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:52 PM   #7
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Sorry I couldn't help myself...

I agree with your original sentiment Woody... Lets all be civil around here. Our cars are all way too much fun (most of the time) to be on the internet getting upset.

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Old 04-28-2016, 03:35 PM   #8
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Sorry I couldn't help myself...

I agree with your original sentiment Woody... Lets all be civil around here. Our cars are all way too much fun (most of the time) to be on the internet getting upset.

My updated campaign photo. Seriously though, Rick3000 can have it because I'm not sure I'm qualified to do it. It looks like most of us would prefer no moderator or just someone to clean house every once in awhile.

When I say I want newer model in the mix, I'm thinking more activity in the 987 section of this forum. I think we could benefit from having newer models to learn from. Shifter, air box, that kind of stuff. Meeting of the minds kind of information.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:21 AM   #9
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I'm for self-regulation with the exception of maintaining subject discipline in the threads- a 'moderator' could help steer folks when they start to stray off topic.

If we cannot be gentlemen (and ladies) in this forum, then that behavior should not be tolerated by the group. Maybe disagreements get two civil replies max, then you take it off line. A reminder of our shared purpose would be well timed when things start to slip. Self-regulation can handle this if we all agree to help out.
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Old 04-28-2016, 02:14 PM   #10
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I'm pretty happy with the current software and don't really think this place needs a mod. I do wish I could like posts though.


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Old 04-28-2016, 02:53 PM   #11
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I'm pretty happy with the current software and don't really think this place needs a mod. I do wish I could like posts though.


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Old 04-30-2016, 08:51 AM   #12
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I agree with points:

The need for moderators is few and far between (at least based on what i've seen here). As mentioned, with few exceptions everyone due to the higher average age of ownership operates with a reasonable level of maturity.

More involvement from newer gen boxster owners would be good. The fact that the forum name has 986 in it however certainly isn't helping this cause obviously. New turbo boxster discussion not welcome though. Just kidding
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Old 04-28-2016, 02:58 PM   #13
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Maybe someone that also has an air cooled Porsche and knows an air cooled forum can verify wether or not its popular, is keeping members, and adding new members as well getting contributions and good quality information?
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:19 PM   #14
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FWIW I have been on this forum about as long as Randall and we have seen some changes over the years. A long time ago there was a moderator who was very involved and a regular poster (Bruce Lee). Sometimes things got too personal and caused heartburn even with an active mod. We have seen some very interesting personalities over the last 10 years but this is still the best and friendliest car forum I know.

There are no perfect solutions. With any group of people there will occasionally be disagreements and folks get feelings hurt. Remember that this is just a car forum among friends. Don't take this stuff personally. If you find yourself needing to go all "keyboard commando" over someone's post, check yourself and maybe take a break from 986 for a few days. It's just a car forum.

I owned my 986 for 10 years and she was a great car. Probably the most fun car I have ever owned. I now have a 987.2 and am enjoying new adventures but still pop in here out of long time friendships with others who have similar interests. Hopefully my experiences with the Boxster will still be useful to others and I enjoy reading other's experiences as they discover their 986 along the way.

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Old 04-29-2016, 06:49 AM   #15
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I was on this forum when Bruce Lee was mod and I left it for years because of him. This forum, with few exceptions, is well run by its members who typically exercise control over their emotions. If you compare this forum with the Pelican Parts forum this forum is well mannered and informative and not the wild west where you have to wear a flame retardant suit when you log on and I hope this forum doesn't turn into it. I vote for restraint before we elect a sheriff and see how it goes for a while. We can't let one or two incidents cause an over reaction as the members seem to be capable of handling the situations.
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Moderators can be a very positive addition to any forum, provided that:

1. The forum rules are clearly stated, and agreeing to them is a requirement of joining.
2. The moderator(s) actions are equitable and according to the forum rules you agreed to when you joined.
3. The moderator's actions are both quick and appropriate to the incident at hand.

There are other Porsche related forums that function in this way, maintaining a "no nonsense" approach to rules violations. If the latest incident had begun there, it would have quickly been over, with those involved first warned, and then permanently banned (yes, that can be done) if the offense reoccurred. It works well, encourages civil exchanges, and eliminates such unfortunate threads.

Unfortunately, self regulation on internet forums is more of an idealistic concept rather than a reality. We live in a world where it takes locks to keep honest people honest...........
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:11 PM   #17
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Moderators can be a very positive addition to any forum, provided that:

1. The forum rules are clearly stated, and agreeing to them is a requirement of joining.
2. The moderator(s) actions are equitable and according to the forum rules you agreed to when you joined.
3. The moderator's actions are both quick and appropriate to the incident at hand.

There are other Porsche related forums that function in this way, maintaining a "no nonsense" approach to rules violations. If the latest incident had begun there, it would have quickly been over, with those involved first warned, and then permanently banned (yes, that can be done) if the offense reoccurred. It works well, encourages civil exchanges, and eliminates such unfortunate threads.

Unfortunately, self regulation on internet forums is more of an idealistic concept rather than a reality. We live in a world where it takes locks to keep honest people honest...........
Truth, I don't think we need them. I have acted as a moderator on other forms....I generally left because the moderators started to get an agenda that was always one sided because of favors, or public opinon....I say leave it alone
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For a splendid example of a very well Moderated and useful Forum ,I suggest the curious check out RennTech. Susrprised JFP didn't mention it :-).
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FWIW, I think that everyone here is nice enough that we don't need moderators - everyone here is mostly self-moderated already.

And the few spats that do happen are pretty tame in terms of internet forum vitriol and then someone from Pelican can step in and deal with it.

Its a great forum with great members, let's keep it this way.
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:20 PM   #20
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I've only been a member of this forum for a few months, but the amount I've learned has been directly inverse to my length of time as a member. I've been blown away not only by the generosity, but by the simple quality of responses. For a Boxster newbie, simply doing a thread search on a topic will yield a near overwhelming amount of information. There are some truly wonderful people here, and I've become so enamored of the enthusiasm you all demonstrate, that I check the forum pretty frequently.

Unfortunately, I've also seen some evidence of abuse. I seem to recall someone mentioning a thread where an individual was actually physically threatened. I also thought I saw something about the threat of a lawsuit over copyrighted information. Please correct me if that didn't happen here, but even if it didn't, I have seen it happen on other forums.

I'm all for free speech -- I spent 20 years in the military defending it. But I'm with JFP: it might be good to have some moderation, if for anything, to protect us from ourselves.

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