Do we need a moderator?

[itsnotanova]

I've always liked how open this forum was and the lack of supervision. Most of the time everything worked it's way out, but these threads the last few days have got me rethinking the lack of a moderator on here. I'm the kind of a guy who will let people fight it out. I'm not sure that's a good approach for here though. I'm afraid we're more than likely just going to lose people instead. We need more and less . I hate to see us lose anyone because we're not that big of a family.
Another issue I have is I think some of the stickies are outdated and need to be removed or replaced. I also think the forum as a whole needs to somehow try and start getting more involvement from the newer Boxster and Cayman crowd.
What do you guys think?

[geraintthomas]

Agreed, more moderation would be welcome here!

[Smallblock454]

Hi,

well i don't think we need more moderation. Why? Because people are old enough.

A totally outdated forum software would be my point. Also the forum is sometimes very confusing, because there are tons of topics with the same content and sometimes you really don't find what you're looking for. FAQ section would be great.

Just my 2 cents

Regards
Markus

[rick3000]

There has not been an active moderator here since Brucelee a few years ago. It normally works out okay, but I agree one or two moderators to quickly deal with any situations like what has happened recently or to just deal with spam would be welcome. That said, I've been on this board a while and I can only recall a handful of threads that needed moderator intervention. If the powers that be decided to appoint a new mod, I wouldn't mind doing it, I'm on here everyday anyway.

[jb92563]

Moderation is good if its on a one off basis when things get out of hand, but life and families are also full of disputes so we cant sterilize too much or the moderation starts to compromise the freedom of opinions.

I think a good resolution to the ParticleWave vs Pedro dispute is for a Moderator to ask both to disengage from those threads for the good of the forum.

If that does not work, then delete the threads.

Points have been made on both sides enough so members can investigate further of their own accord if they are interested in the products in question.

The truth is rarely black and white, good or bad, you just have to make up your own mind and move on.

So limited moderation when things get ugly would be my vote.

[JayG]

I would agree that we don't need more active moderators. In the 2+ years I have been on this forum, there have been less than a handful of threads that went off the rails and required intervention. In one case it was almost universal in opinion of shutting it down.

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist

[Muskoka Minute]

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist[/QUOTE]


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[CHRISP357]

Originally Posted by Muskoka Minute

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist

X2[/QUOTE]

I don't think I quite agree with you. If I move over to a 987 or 981 I would hate to have to move on from the people and the help that I appreciate so much on this forum.

As far as a moderator, I haven't needed a babysitter to settle things for me since I was about ten.

[j.fro]

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist[/QUOTE]

+1more
Issues and solutions for our 986 cars are different than those for the newer cars. Having a mix of 986/987/981 posts would make things really confusing and possibly more contentious.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by j.fro

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist

+1more
Issues and solutions for our 986 cars are different than those for the newer cars. Having a mix of 986/987/981 posts would make things really confusing and possibly more contentious.[/QUOTE]

The challenge with this attitude is that then slowly, this forum will die. 986's are getting older and older and are slowly coming off the road. I personally moved to a 987 late last year as my old 986 was just too beat up to put more money into it.

And as someone pointed out- these forums are simple. Very simply laid out, easy to navigate and, for the most part, a good group of people. Lots of us are looking for an alternative to Rennlist....and I don't see how newer PCar owners will impact that.

[Fintro11]

Originally Posted by Giller

+1more
Issues and solutions for our 986 cars are different than those for the newer cars. Having a mix of 986/987/981 posts would make things really confusing and possibly more contentious.

The challenge with this attitude is that then slowly, this forum will die. 986's are getting older and older and are slowly coming off the road. I personally moved to a 987 late last year as my old 986 was just too beat up to put more money into it.

And as someone pointed out- these forums are simple. Very simply laid out, easy to navigate and, for the most part, a good group of people. Lots of us are looking for an alternative to Rennlist....and I don't see how newer PCar owners will impact that.[/QUOTE]


The forum will not die but it will change... The age will drop to the mid 20's and late teens as the 944 forums have over the years

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Fintro11

The forum will not die but it will change... The age will drop to the mid 20's and late teens as the 944 forums have over the years

great, just what we need, being overrun by a bunch of Millennials
LOL

Big Jake, does not apply to you

[78F350]

The forum will not die but it will change... The age will drop to the mid 20's and late teens as the 944 forums have over the years

We'll see. I have noticed a lot of members that have moved on to other cars, yet keep coming back. Change is inevitable. I plan to keep a couple 986s around as long as they care to stay, but expect I'll migrate to a 987 as well. My guess is that this will remain the best Boxster forum and slowly gravitate to the newer (yet still old) cars.

As for moderators, for the most part the forum is self-cleansing. Landa, cats, street racing... When things get way out of hand, Wayne or one of his people do eventually lock or delete the bad threads. Looking at the post count and view count, the worst threads do attract the most attention. That "Submit Reply" button can be dangerous. Maybe they should add another button after that says, "Are You Sure?"
:dance:

[geraintthomas]

Actually Smallblock has a point. Perhaps it's time that this forum had a software update?

It's ridiculously old and could do with freshening up.

[Dlirium]

Originally Posted by geraintthomas

Actually Smallblock has a point. Perhaps it's time that this forum had a software update?

It's ridiculously old and could do with freshening up.

I'm on quite a few car forums, and quite honestly, this one is the EASIEST to follow and use. Search is, of course, useless - but other than that I'd say careful what you wish for...

As for Moderation, meh...this will all blow over and we'll get back to soon enough...

[tomonomics]

I agree on the software update.....the ability to 'Like' or 'Agree' with a post would be nice, instead of having to reply with "Looks nice!"

Obviously, an option to block/hide a given thread would be awesome.

[Gelbster]

There are the same few 'contributors' to almost every nasty spat.
There are an even smaller number of initiators.
When the name calling starts, I just unsubscribe. The name calling usually terminates any useful information or help anyway. It just becomes an ugly ,bullying and childish exchange. So it is a waste of time to stay subscribed.
So when the mud-slinging starts, the lack of Moderation obstructs the Forum objective of mutual help with our Boxster problems.
The generally polite and cordial tone of this Forum is what I enjoy. There is another forum where nastiness seems to be tolerated - even condoned. Interestingly the trouble-makers from this Forum seem to be even more vitriolic there. One offender here was banned from the other site - he uses a different 'name' but we all know who he is...
A timely reminder from a Moderator of the Forum Rules and Objectives or a time-out would be helpful for the hot-heads.
That way we keep useful members who just need a little help moderating their statements.For these reasons I suggest all parties would benefit from Moderation..

[Timco]

All we need is for Mark to step up and act on IMs or reports. It's not too much to ask. Take out the damn trash once in a while.

A newer format would be nice.

[RandallNeighbour]

I've been active on this forum for nearly 12 years. This is, by enlarge, a great group of people with whom to share information, celebrate and commiserate when things go wrong with our aging water cooled porsches. And I've seen a lot of power-posting people come and go.

While we don't have an active moderator, I'm wondering how everyone has experienced the moderators when something is flagged or brought to their attention. If there's a decent response time, I would think we could simply all agree to do a better job of flagging posts and abusive behavior.

Thoughts?

As to Woody's other comment about discussions for newer Porsche owners, I would think a forum of their own might be more appropriate (987forum.com, for example).

[Muzzle of Bees]

I am with you Woody. Heck my wallet would much lighter with out you. Smallblock hits the point perfectly here. It is confusing having the same problems with no how to section. It would useful to have one that is managed well. We all usually end up with the same problems. Why not have a simpler way of handling them?