Got a break wear light

[Bruce Wayne]

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Bruce Wayne

I was reading this thread munching on Planters mixed nuts, and coming across your popcorn eating post the mixed nuts seemed much more appropriate.

[Mark_T]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

I was reading this thread munching on Planters mixed nuts, and coming across your popcorn eating post the mixed nuts seemed much more appropriate.

"You're a funny guy Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last!"

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[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

"You're a funny guy Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last!"

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Too easy, telling my age lol.

Awenuld in Commando!

[steved0x]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

"You're a funny guy Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last!"

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I like how the side of the car is magically fixed when he drives away...

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

"You're a funny guy Sully. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last!"

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Commando. Easy.

[Mark_T]

Guys, can we not have a difference of opinion without it getting personal and nasty? Armchair mechanics (myself included) will be the death of us all! Having said that, when I offer advice it it generally because I have first hand experience, not because I read something on the internet. Know what I mean?

I am very certain that the problem here will not be the rotors, but the suggestion to wait and see what the OP finds is obviously the most reasonable and sensible thing to do. I will be the first to apologize if I am wrong but truthfully, I'd like a piece of that $100 action that Timco proposed. I could use the cash!

Kram, when I said you were wrong it was not because what you propose could not possibly ever happen, only that it is highly highly unlikely to happen except in the most rare of circumstances and would definitley need contributing factors, such as improper installation, in order for it to happen. It's about as likely as getting hit by a meteorite on your way home from work. If you had actually ever done a brake job on your car I don't think you would be so vociferously defending your theory. There are several much more likely reasons for the fault.

Unlikely things DO happen. I blew out one of my clutch lines because a small shard of granite got wedged between the line and the body and sawed its way through the line from vibration over time . What were the chances of that happening? Now, if someone else told me they blew a clutch line, I would not immediately insist that it must have been because of a piece of rock getting stuck in there, at least not until I had a look at the car in question.

So, how about we wait and see and maybe even learn?

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

Guys, can we not have a difference of opinion without it getting personal and nasty? Armchair mechanics (myself included) will be the death of us all! Having said that, when I offer advice it it generally because I have first hand experience, not because I read something on the internet. Know what I mean?:

I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.

Don't pass me off as stupid.

[Mark_T]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.

Don't pass me off as stupid.

Easy there pal - no offense intended. You'll notice I included myself in that category, and I too do virtually all of my own work. It was meant to differentiate us from the pro's, like JFP for instance. Would you have preferred the term "backyard mechanic"? "Amateur" perhaps? Maybe after you've actually done a brake job, (like the rest of us that have contributed to this thread) you'll have a little bit better idea of what you are talking about. I never said you were stupid, just mis-informed, and there's no shame in that.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Mark_T

Easy there pal - no offense intended. You'll notice I included myself in that category, and I too do virtually all of my own work. It was meant to differentiate us from the pro's, like JFP for instance. Would you have preferred the term "backyard mechanic"? "Amateur" perhaps? Maybe after you've actually done a brake job, (like the rest of us that have contributed to this thread) you'll have a little bit better idea of what you are talking about. I never said you were stupid, just mis-informed, and there's no shame in that.

Yeah backyard mechanic I am, not by trade, just enjoyment of knowing the job was done right and with care. I've watched several video's on changing 986 Boxster pads, has to be the easiest brake pad change I've ever seen. Like you said, to mess that up would be hard to do. When I had my winter tires installed I checked my rotors and I have about a 1/8" lip at the edge and it's very thin, like a knife, could cut your finger on it if you wanted to. What I read made sense to me at that time just from observing my own rotors.

I've been doing a lot of research on rotors and ceramic brake pads. Just haven't found a combo I like yet.

I did email ECS about what they have on their site and pointed them to this thread. Will be interesting to see their reply.

Anyways, I'm good. Love to learn.

[Pdwight]

This is a downhill topic like oil changes, but I have EBC Red Stuff on my Porsche now and for many years on my E36, work great and seem to last forever

[JayG]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.

Don't pass me off as stupid.

the problem is you often refuse to listen to what others are saying,
Case in point, your thread on changing the spoiler deployment speed and how it effects the aerodynamics of the car, MPG and drag, etc

Stop being so argumentative with everyone. If you ask for opinions, don't just argue with everyone who disagrees with you. Accept other opinions for what they are. Remember everyone has an opinion and they are like a-holes, some are smelly and stinky

[Mark_T]

A couple of tips for brake jobs that you don't always see in the DIY's:

Really important - use only the best flare wrenches, like Snap-On or Mac. The rest are crap and will spread and round off your nipples if they are overly tight (oo, that sounds painful).

Brake fluid is one of the best paint removers you will find, Be careful not to spill it on any painted surfaces and if you do then wipe it up right away.

Have lots of clean rags handy and don't spare the brake cleaner. Compressed air is also very helpful. I believe that at least part of the reason that my brakes don't squeal is that the calipers were cleaned to operating room standards before painting and re-assembly.

A Motive power bleeder is worth every penny. Actually, it's worth twice that.

The clutch line comes out of the side of the reservoir, not the bottom like the brakes. Do not let the fluid level in the reservoir drop below the level of the clutch line outlet or you have just bought yourself a world of hassle. The clutch pedal needs to be wedged to the floor for bleeding. A piece of 2x4 works fine. Don't be tempted to skip bleeding the clutch even though it is a royal PITA to get at the bleeder.

The wear sensors are not actually required, Many people don't re-install them in the pads and instead just wire them up to the suspension somewhere out of the way. I did not do this. Also, judging by the extremely low resistance through the sensors, I think you can probably just short the plug they attach to and eliminate them together, but I stress that I have not actually tried this myself and am merely guessing.

While the brake job is very simple and easy on these cars, it is definitely possible to botch it up if you are not careful. Here's a link to Pedro's site:
DIY Projects: Do-it-Yourself Repair and Maintenance for your Porsche
His DIY's are well written with lots of pics.

Thus ends my unsolicited advice - good luck!

[KRAM36]

Thanks guys.

Yeah Timco I really want ceramic. I put a nice set of drilled and slotted rotors with ceramic pads on my daughters Eclipse GTS Spyder and her wheels have never looked so clean.

[healthservices]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Thanks guys.

Yeah Timco I really want ceramic. I put a nice set of drilled and slotted rotors with ceramic pads on my daughters Eclipse GTS Spyder and her wheels have never looked so clean.

Wait....




let me get this straight....





More Krams???

[78F350]

I put a nice set of drilled and slotted rotors with ceramic pads on my daughters Eclipse GTS Spyder and her wheels have never looked so clean.

Not to throw another (@T in the blender, but every time I hear mention of drilled, dimpled, and slotted rotors I remember many old unresolved debates.

This thread was a good one: http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/52440-blank-vs-cross-drilled-vs-slotted-brake-rotors.html. You can find it in just about any performance car forum and to some people its like debating religion.

Sometimes you'll find quoted data supporting opposite views, but usually it's like using a butt-dyno to back up HP claims. After all the debates and flames I have read, I am convinced that good pads, such as the Redstuff are what really matter. For rotors, I expect material is more significant than blank vs drilled vs slot etc. My '99 is staying with blank rotors, the '01 is going to go slotted & drilled. All a matter of aesthetics to me.
:dance:

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by healthservices

Wait....




let me get this straight....





More Krams???

Yes there are. I have two daughters, the oldest has birthed two more. You're welcome.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Yes there are. I have two daughters, the oldest has birthed two more. You're welcome.

KC??

So that puts you in your late 30's then, right? Maybe 40ish?

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by Timco

KC??

So that puts you in your late 30's then, right? Maybe 40ish?

47 and retired as of April 10th, 2015.

These are recent pictures of me. I'm in good shape, full head of hair with no gray in it.





Have all the time I need to research wrenching on my Boxster. Been a motor head all my life, rebuilding motors or what ever needed to be done.


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[Timco]

So, the rotor really did cut through the wire after all????

And what proud Porsche owner lets their pads get to the wear sensor without compulsively messing with them way before that??? That is bad, and you should feel bad. Shame.

New setup looks tight. Very nice. I really wanted to go red calipers but the SE came with aluminum painted so I stayed silver. Nice look but not the flash of the red.