11-01-2015, 08:10 AM
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If the car has its original engine, it is a dual row. I would unequivocally recommend the LN dual row bearing without any oil feed system over the other options you mentioned, based upon years of experience install ingthem; they simply work and do not fail.
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11-01-2015, 08:48 AM
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[QUOTE=JFP in PA;471881]If the car has its original engine, it is a dual row. I would unequivocally recommend the LN dual row bearing without any oil feed system over the other options you mentioned, based upon years of experience install ingthem; they simply work and do not fail.[/
As far as I know they still need looking at after certain miles,no?
Are there any of their bearings that have ever failed or not?
How about LN's bearings with dof? Just asking
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11-01-2015, 08:55 AM
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[QUOTE=boxster;471894]
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
If the car has its original engine, it is a dual row. I would unequivocally recommend the LN dual row bearing without any oil feed system over the other options you mentioned, based upon years of experience install ingthem; they simply work and do not fail.[/
As far as I know they still need looking at after certain miles,no?
Are there any of their bearings that have ever failed or not?
How about LN's bearings with dof? Just asking
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Last I saw, dual row replacements were at an estimated 75,000 miles.
LN has never had a dual row unit fail to my knowledge, and the handful of single rows that failed were traced to improper installation techniques.
The LN bearing does not need an oil feed, oil mist inside the crankcase is more than enough lubrication, as demonstrated by nearly 20K successful installations. The DOF ads unnecessary complications and has been known to introduce other problems.
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11-01-2015, 09:12 AM
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[QUOTE=JFP in PA;471895]
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Originally Posted by boxster
Last I saw, dual row replacements were at an estimated 75,000 miles.
LN has never had a dual row unit fail to my knowledge, and the handful of single rows that failed were traced to improper installation techniques.
The LN bearing does not need an oil feed, oil mist inside the crankcase is more than enough lubrication, as demonstrated by nearly 20K successful installations. The DOF ads unnecessary complications and has been known to introduce other problems.
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Yeah like oil starvation from where the DOF takes its supply eh! I dont use the car much,and that's one of my concerns,as it is claimed that "garage queens" tend to suffer from the problem more. Do you know if LN bearings will also suffer with cars not being used much,or will that problem just be with original bearings? My car has 72k miles,so if they last 75k miles,that will be pretty good for me,��
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11-01-2015, 11:27 AM
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[QUOTE=boxster;471899]
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Yeah like oil starvation from where the DOF takes its supply eh! I dont use the car much,and that's one of my concerns,as it is claimed that "garage queens" tend to suffer from the problem more. Do you know if LN bearings will also suffer with cars not being used much,or will that problem just be with original bearings? My car has 72k miles,so if they last 75k miles,that will be pretty good for me,��
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As I mentioned earlier, I am unaware of anyone having any type of issue with the LN dual row under any conditions, high use or garage queens. If you are really concerned, and have the funds for it, LN is going to release a dual row "IMS Solution" kit which replaces the ball bearing IMS with a solid bearing that will outlive the rest of the car.
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11-01-2015, 11:44 AM
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The bearing is immersed in oil when the car is sitting level with the engine off. Change the oil frequently, use good oil, and when you are ready to change the clutch you can worry about the IMS again. As a garage queen, how long will it take for the car to reach 75k more miles? Will you even still have the car then?
JFP, first time I've seen the 75k figure. Where did it come from? Last time I talked to Charles it was his thinking it was even more. It may be he is just being conservative again?
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11-01-2015, 11:59 AM
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The bearing is immersed in oil when the car is sitting level with the engine off. Change the oil frequently, use good oil, and when you are ready to change the clutch you can worry about the IMS again. As a garage queen, how long will it take for the car to reach 75k more miles? Will you even still have the car then?
JFP, first time I've seen the 75k figure. Where did it come from? Last time I talked to Charles it was his thinking it was even more. It may be he is just being conservative again?
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75K was the last published number I have seen from Charles and that was some time ago, perhaps it is even higher now. http://imsretrofit.com/service-intervals/
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11-01-2015, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
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The bearing is immersed in oil when the car is sitting level with the engine off. Change the oil frequently, use good oil, and when you are ready to change the clutch you can worry about the IMS again. As a garage queen, how long will it take for the car to reach 75k more miles? Will you even still have the car then?
JFP, first time I've seen the 75k figure. Where did it come from? Last time I talked to Charles it was his thinking it was even more. It may be he is just being conservative again?
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Exactly,with the amount of road use I do in it, I think I wont live to see another 75k miles in it,lol! So looks like a pretty safe bet!
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11-01-2015, 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE=JFP in PA;471915]
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Originally Posted by boxster
As I mentioned earlier, I am unaware of anyone having any type of issue with the LN dual row under any conditions, high use or garage queens. If you are really concerned, and have the funds for it, LN is going to release a dual row "IMS Solution" kit which replaces the ball bearing IMS with a solid bearing that will outlive the rest of the car.
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That would be the perfect solution then for sure. Do you know when they plan to release it?
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11-01-2015, 12:05 PM
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[QUOTE=JFP in PA;471915]
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Originally Posted by boxster
As I mentioned earlier, I am unaware of anyone having any type of issue with the LN dual row under any conditions, high use or garage queens. If you are really concerned, and have the funds for it, LN is going to release a dual row "IMS Solution" kit which replaces the ball bearing IMS with a solid bearing that will outlive the rest of the car.
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Just looked at the"FAQ" section on their website and it says that they do not plan to introduce the ims solution to fit dual row bearings!��
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11-01-2015, 12:31 PM
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[QUOTE=boxster;471921]
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Just looked at the"FAQ" section on their website and it says that they do not plan to introduce the ims solution to fit dual row bearings!��
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That has changed, Jake Raby commented on it becoming available a month or two ago on a thread here. Jake is already installing them at his shop.
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