06-21-2012, 06:06 AM
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Cigarette Lighter Delete
Has anyone tried this mod ? Any improvement in performance ?
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06-21-2012, 06:34 AM
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Kind of a trade off. The car is lighter, so it turns, stops, and brakes better, but it sits a little higher. I think I'll have to lower it some more.
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06-21-2012, 11:07 AM
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JD you only need this kind of performance mod for track driving.....besides you will be sorry when you can't light up a Djarum...
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06-21-2012, 11:45 AM
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Runs a lot cooler without the lighter. No need for a low temp thermostat.
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06-21-2012, 11:49 AM
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What? Are you crazy? The engineers at Porsche know best and since THEY decided that you needed a lighter, who are you to go against their 50 years of engineering expertise, testing, and analysis?
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06-21-2012, 01:41 PM
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I'm thinking - less draw on the electrical system means greater spark to the engine which will result in more power ?
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06-21-2012, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
I'm thinking - less draw on the electrical system means greater spark to the engine which will result in more power ?
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nope, less draw on the system = less parasitic drag from the alternator.
soooo to geek out:
Watts/745.7 (one HP) = Electrical output in HP
HP x 10% Efficiency Loss (guessing here) = HP Loss
HP + Efficiency Loss = Total HP used
so lets figure ~160 watts for the lighter
160 / 745.7 =.215
.215 X .10 = .0215
.215 + .0215 = .236hp
That blasted lighter is costing you nearly a quarter of a hp when your girl fires up a Marlboro!
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06-21-2012, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadrach74
nope, less draw on the system = less parasitic drag from the alternator.
soooo to geek out:
Watts/745.7 (one HP) = Electrical output in HP
HP x 10% Efficiency Loss (guessing here) = HP Loss
HP + Efficiency Loss = Total HP used
so lets figure ~160 watts for the lighter
160 / 745.7 =.215
.215 X .10 = .0215
.215 + .0215 = .236hp
That blasted lighter is costing you nearly a quarter of a hp when your girl fires up a Marlboro!
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For the record - it's Virginia Slims .
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06-21-2012, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
For the record - it's Virginia Slims .
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06-21-2012, 06:02 PM
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What's the point of more power if you can't spark a fatty and enjoy it?
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06-22-2012, 02:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_T
What's the point of more power if you can't spark a fatty and enjoy it?
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Damn straight Mark, also I like to hone my driving "skills" by being able to downshift, push in the lighter, brake, pull out lighter, up shift, light cigar and hit a perfect apex. Man there is enough being taken over by the cars today to reduce driving fun so leave the lighter in and use it often. You will soooo enjoy your driving experience more!!!
AKL 
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06-22-2012, 03:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen K. Littlefield
Damn straight Mark, also I like to hone my driving "skills" by being able to downshift, push in the lighter, brake, pull out lighter, up shift, light cigar and hit a perfect apex. Man there is enough being taken over by the cars today to reduce driving fun so leave the lighter in and use it often. You will soooo enjoy your driving experience more!!!
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I don't think that Mark T. was referring to a cigar when he mentioned a "fatty".
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06-22-2012, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
I don't think that Mark T. was referring to a cigar when he mentioned a "fatty".
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+1!
( WHY do they have this idiotic "10 character minimum" on this board???)
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06-22-2012, 04:43 AM
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That's ok - Allen makes a good point nonetheless.
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06-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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I stuck a wine cork in mine, gave me +2 vanity points. You can really feel the difference, I went with a 2010 Vintage year Port.
You might try looking in your ash try that were I found mine
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06-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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Could you pan up and to the right, please?
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06-23-2012, 05:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_T
Could you pan up and to the right, please?
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Bless your heart Mark, you are a perceptive man! Patiently waiting for the "pan up".
AKL 
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06-23-2012, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
Has anyone tried this mod ? Any improvement in performance ?
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Of the Car or the Lungs?:ah:
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06-23-2012, 09:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen K. Littlefield
Bless your heart Mark, you are a perceptive man! Patiently waiting for the "pan up".
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Wish I could, she let me for an "S"... Should of spent the extra cash 
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