Wheel stud conversion

[rastta]

Originally Posted by JayG

Also, the instal;ation instructions on some say to use red locktite. I used blue and have not had any issues. Red is considered "permenant" and probubly will require heating with a torch to remove.
Blue will hold them in, but you can break one loose if you have to with wrenches

If you track or AX your car, once you try studs, you won't want to go back to lugbolts. Makes tire changing super easy and fast.

Sure hope you are using the high heat locktite as regular blue or red will turn to liquid with enough heat and the studs will back out.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by rastta

Sure hope you are using the high heat locktite as regular blue or red will turn to liquid with enough heat and the studs will back out.

Studs shouldn't back out spontaneously regardless of loctite use or no, if the nuts are torqued properly. the only time studs without loctite should be able to "walk" out is during wheel-changing / nut-removal.

A properly torqued nut on a stud is at the same risk of coming-loose as a properly torqued bolt is.

[rastta]

Originally Posted by maytag

Studs shouldn't back out spontaneously regardless of loctite use or no, if the nuts are torqued properly. the only time studs without loctite should be able to "walk" out is during wheel-changing / nut-removal.

A properly torqued nut on a stud is at the same risk of coming-loose as a properly torqued bolt is.

Well - I've seen it happen. Everything torqued properly - but used regular blue loctite. Notes vibration on track, comes in all the studs on the right side are loose. I've run studs on my cars for many years, never used loctite, never needed to.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by rastta

I've run studs on my cars for many years, never used loctite, never needed to.

Same.

I've BROKEN plenty of studs, before we knew the benefits of hub-centric, hahaha. But I've never had one come loose / un-torqued on me.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by maytag

Studs shouldn't back out spontaneously regardless of loctite use or no, if the nuts are torqued properly. the only time studs without loctite should be able to "walk" out is during wheel-changing / nut-removal.

A properly torqued nut on a stud is at the same risk of coming-loose as a properly torqued bolt is.

Yup. They won't back out by theselves if they are tourqued.
In 3 years and countless wheel changes I have not had one loosen at all with blue locktite.

If you use red, and somhow break a stud, good luck getting it out. You may have to replace the hub

[JayG]

Originally Posted by maytag

Studs shouldn't back out spontaneously regardless of loctite use or no, if the nuts are torqued properly. the only time studs without loctite should be able to "walk" out is during wheel-changing / nut-removal.

A properly torqued nut on a stud is at the same risk of coming-loose as a properly torqued bolt is.

Yup. They won't back out by theselves if they are tourqued.
In 3 years and countless wheel changes I have not had one loosen at all with blue locktite.

If you use red, and somehow break a stud, good luck getting it out. You may have to replace the hub

[Quadcammer]

Originally Posted by JayG

If you use red, and somehow break a stud, good luck getting it out. You may have to replace the hub

not even close. a propane torch and about 5 minutes and it will spin right out.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by Quadcammer

not even close. a propane torch and about 5 minutes and it will spin right out.

I think he meant if it breaks-off and there's nothing to grab ahold of. But even then: I'm very famous for welding studs to broken-off studs...... and that kills the red loctite in a hurry too.

I don;t think there's any problem using red. I don't know that it's necessary.... but can't see any harm.


I once tried to safety-wire lug-nuts with a braided run from nut to nut. If I took about an hour per wheel on them, they were beautiful...... yeah..... did that once, on one wheel. hahahaha

[Quadcammer]

Originally Posted by maytag

I think he meant if it breaks-off and there's nothing to grab ahold of. But even then: I'm very famous for welding studs to broken-off studs...... and that kills the red loctite in a hurry too.

I don;t think there's any problem using red. I don't know that it's necessary.... but can't see any harm.


I once tried to safety-wire lug-nuts with a braided run from nut to nut. If I took about an hour per wheel on them, they were beautiful...... yeah..... did that once, on one wheel. hahahaha

If it breaks flush, you drill hole and use extractor. After you heat it, there is nothing preventing its removal

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Quadcammer

not even close. a propane torch and about 5 minutes and it will spin right out.

That's assuming you have a torch at the track.

In any case, red is overkill