Turbo vs Supercharger

Why dont we all cool down. I am a fun loving teenager who is popular and a practical joker, thats my personality. Others may be recluse, obnoxious, meticulous, or just plain grouchy, but thats who we are and we cant change that. The problem arises when 2 grouchy people get into it and gripe at each other, so when the person accuses the other of being grouchy, they themselves are grouchy. Its just a forum, chill out, words dont hurt anyone unless you choose to react to them. We are all smart people on this forum (cant say the same for the integra forum, lol) due to the fact we drive a boxster in the first place. We are all adults, lets act like it.

[z12358]

Originally Posted by boggtown

Why dont we all cool down. I am a fun loving teenager who is popular and a practical joker, thats my personality. Others may be recluse, obnoxious, meticulous, or just plain grouchy, but thats who we are and we cant change that. The problem arises when 2 grouchy people get into it and gripe at each other, so when the person accuses the other of being grouchy, they themselves are grouchy. Its just a forum, chill out, words dont hurt anyone unless you choose to react to them. We are all smart people on this forum (cant say the same for the integra forum, lol) due to the fact we drive a boxster in the first place. We are all adults, lets act like it.

Sorry but I can't see what problem you are referring to. Personally, I enjoyed the information and opinions shared in this thread.

[ohioboxster]

Boggtown,
Jim and I have a difference in opinion and I dont believe we are out to hurt each others feelings. We have not made inflamatory comments to each other and I cant speak for Jim but Im not looking for a fight. If these comments were directed at us you are mistaken, if not disregard.

I am reffering to the entire forum, not a particular incidence, sometimes people can act a little strange sometimes. Im just trying to remind people that the more friends you have, the easier your life is. Life is your time spent with people you like and dislike, if you dont dislike anyone, your life will be much better. I just want you all to know your all my friends and if I take a long trip, I will try and stop by and say Hi to you all.

[pecivil]

I think it is not a matter of like or dislike. People have differing opinions. These differing opinions differ because of the knowledge base they come from, and more knowledge is one main reason to visit a board like this.

While I have differed with Jim on one matter, I tend to think (based on his background) that he knows probably more than anybody on this board about what we speak to.

But that does not mean Ohio is bashing or unfriendly because he disagrees (or wrong for that matter).

But I too enjoy the exchanges on the board because it (hopefully) results in knowledge being spread about the Boxster, the car near and dear to all of our hearts.

So let the debating (friendly of course) rage, and let each state his facts.

but on the detonation issue, I am with Jim on this. Read this book called "Supercharger" written by Corky Bell, and you will understand much about how FI works in an engine. I have read it, and what Jim is saying is spot on about the ambient heat rise, detonation, and altering the ignition to avoid it.

Detonation is bad, and it IS very possible that the SC Box is detonating and you dont know it. Hopefully the ECU remap retards the timing when the knock sensors detect it. But even if it does, the fact it is trying to happen is a very bad thing, and does not bode well for the setup.

I wonder how (if any) of the IA SC systems have blown up the engine? Do they tell you? Do they warm you when you buy it?

[Sammy]

My vote is for the supercharger due to the heat issue with turbos. I also will second the use of an intercooler, larger injectors, appropriate fuel pump, intake, etc...

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by ohioboxster

Boggtown,
Jim and I have a difference in opinion and I dont believe we are out to hurt each others feelings. We have not made inflamatory comments to each other and I cant speak for Jim but Im not looking for a fight. If these comments were directed at us you are mistaken, if not disregard.

Hi,

OH, I'm not sure our opinions are that different. Detonation is a well-known phenomena and is caused under certain conditions whether it's in a Diesel, Aircraft or Boxster.

It's also true that the DME can respond so quickly to the knock sensors that you may be detonating and not know it. Or, detonating at some times and conditions and not others.

Again, I'm not saying that you are, but I also think that you cannot with 100% certainty say that you're not either. You'd need a data stream from the DME to see if the Knock Sensors are detecting anything.

No malice, it's all good fun and learning. It's about truth, either it is or it isn't. Problem in this case is that there's 'evidence' on both sides of the arguement. Glad you're being the Test Bed on this... Keep up the Good Work!

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[JP-s-in st. louis]

I drive mine every day I can with not one issue!

[David_J]

Originally Posted by JP-s-in st. louis

I drive mine every day I can with not one issue!

Liar, you didn't want to take it out in the snow with me.