Calling Out Pedro Bonilla!

[coreseller]

You've quite a ways to go before you should be at "the big boy table".

My 2 cents since you tossed them back my way.


My Only Edit...............I don't have a dog in this fight at all but Particlewave, the way in which you chose to make this dispute with Pedro public Really Sux, it is VERY unbecoming regardless of what you say your reasons are.

[dghii]

PW,
I'm considering purchasing a new Boxster but all the dealers I visit quote prices for the EXACT same car. How can that be fair?

I'd appreciate it if you'd go give them crap for me.

[jdraupp]

Originally Posted by dghii

PW,
I'm considering purchasing a new Boxster but all the dealers I visit quote prices for the EXACT same car. How can that be fair?

I'd appreciate it if you'd go give them crap for me.

I get what you're saying...but I think it would have to be tesla advertising a Boxster with tesla badges marked up to 125k for this argument to hold merit.

No stance either way. Just adding in some perspective.

[stelan]

Wow, particlewave and Pedro have been very helpful to me, perhaps not directly but reading some of their diy's, like the multiple stuff in Pedro's website, or the keyless entry hack or headlight stuff from particlewave.

I hope that everything resolves for the good of everybody around here as we need you guys both.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by stelan

Wow, particlewave and Pedro have been very helpful to me, perhaps not directly but reading some of their diy's, like the multiple stuff in Pedro's website, or the keyless entry hack or headlight stuff from particlewave.

I hope that everything resolves for the good of everybody around here as we need you guys both.

The most coherent response yet.

PS I have never seen Pedro toss a negative post out there. That speaks volumes. I wish I could say the same lol.

[goldsc_78258]

I'm so tired of this self proclaimed protector of the masses calling people LIARS with out an ounce of hard proof, just assumptions , and you know what the say about them. This is a prime example

This is my last post he already cost me a lot more than the $20 I could have saved in my time. while this is fun
I'm done!

Yep we could, let just start by not calling each other liars to begin with.

[itsnotanova]

Sorry, I don't know how to clip a youtube video directly on here. As Rodney would say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

[geraintthomas]

Just wrote this on the other thread on this issue:

Two good people, obviously have differences in their opinions. I won't agree or disagree with anyone, but there's some valid points from both.

Pedro valid point
I agree with Pedro in that he has re-branded a product and decided to sell it under his name. People do it all the time, and as a trusted member, it gives people peace of mind that when they buy a product from him (with a known reputation of helping others), they're getting a good product. Even if he wants to put a little mark up on it, it's up to him as, like said, people do it all the time.

Particlewave valid point
I agree with Particle wave in that re-branding was never the big problem. Telling everyone it's essentially new and improved is a problem, but raising the price from $20 to $200 is a serious problem. Totally unacceptable. Unless the product has changes, like Pedro has stated in the other thread.

I've never dealt with Pedro but I've used his guides, which as we all know are free of charge to view. This in my books makes him quite a respectable person. I've dealt with Particlewave a few times and he's been incredibly helpful, saving my ass a few times and recording a how-to video especially for a problem I had. Not many people would go out of the way to do that for a single individual.

Both have points, but both need to calm down a little (no disrespect to either). Apologies for sitting on the fence but I'd rather not take sides, as they're both good people

I think what needs to happen is for an administrator to delete the threads, and to send a PM to each one recommending them to keep their confrontations to themselves.

[Black Jack]

Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

[jsceash]

Originally Posted by Black Jack

Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

This is just too funny

[Porsche9]

Originally Posted by Black Jack

Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

There is alot of this going on and I wish it would stop. Both on this forum (only recently) and in the U.S. If it gets really bad I have dual citzenship and I may need to move back to Europe. Right now I am confident it will be okay. I really like this forum and the U.S. and plan on staying.

[soxfan1966]

Originally Posted by geraintthomas

Just wrote this on the other thread on this issue:

Two good people, obviously have differences in their opinions. I won't agree or disagree with anyone, but there's some valid points from both.

Pedro valid point
I agree with Pedro in that he has re-branded a product and decided to sell it under his name. People do it all the time, and as a trusted member, it gives people peace of mind that when they buy a product from him (with a known reputation of helping others), they're getting a good product. Even if he wants to put a little mark up on it, it's up to him as, like said, people do it all the time.

Particlewave valid point
I agree with Particle wave in that re-branding was never the big problem. Telling everyone it's essentially new and improved is a problem, but raising the price from $20 to $200 is a serious problem. Totally unacceptable. Unless the product has changes, like Pedro has stated in the other thread.

I've never dealt with Pedro but I've used his guides, which as we all know are free of charge to view. This in my books makes him quite a respectable person. I've dealt with Particlewave a few times and he's been incredibly helpful, saving my ass a few times and recording a how-to video especially for a problem I had. Not many people would go out of the way to do that for a single individual.

Both have points, but both need to calm down a little (no disrespect to either). Apologies for sitting on the fence but I'd rather not take sides, as they're both good people

I think what needs to happen is for an administrator to delete the threads, and to send a PM to each one recommending them to keep their confrontations to themselves.

I agree - it has gotten out of hand on both threads.

[mikefocke]

Is there any information on how this is different from the original? Or what Pedro contributed to the design/mods? Even packaging and documentation could add value.

I see a reference to another thread...where is it?

[paulofto]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

Is there any information on how this is different from the original? Or what Pedro contributed to the design/mods? Even packaging and documentation could add value.

I see a reference to another thread...where is it?

Mike, see here http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/61399-i-dont-negotiate-terrorists.html