12-09-2015, 07:33 PM
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On the slippery slope
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Porsche to rename Boxster/Cayman to 718
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12-09-2015, 08:08 PM
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Its about time! What other car company has different names for coupe and convertible versions of the same car? Plus, I've always hated the cutsie "Boxster" name.
Mine will forever be a 986; (or at least it was until it was totaled and that 986 badge ended up near the 3rd tail light)
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12-10-2015, 03:36 AM
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Will this change be retroactive or will my 1999 still be referred to as a 986?
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12-10-2015, 04:42 AM
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There will still be Boxster and Cayman names to signify the body style.
So, just like there is: 911 Carrera and 911 Targa and 911 Carrera 4 GTS...
...there will be: 718 Boxster and 718 Cayman and 718 Boxster GTS
Personally, I hope this opens up the door for a mid-engine platform that will slot alongside (above!) the 911. The oft-rumored Ferrari fighter, aka baby 918, aka Cayman GT4 on steroids.
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12-10-2015, 08:11 AM
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12-10-2015, 09:21 AM
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Rennzenn
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I'm looking forward to seeing someone transplant the turbo 4 into a Beck Spyder or that 904 replica.
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12-10-2015, 11:25 AM
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WALDMEISTER
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I told you our 986 BOXSTERS will be special...
Boxster is in my opinion the best name ever created, so...so logical and still packed with emotions.
Well, my Boxster will be my last Boxster I guess. New 718 Boxster/Cayman = 4-cylinders ONLY, nein Danke!
Before going there, I become friends with the new Porsche mission e...looks cool
sound..., who said sounds cool?
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12-10-2015, 01:19 PM
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I would have been impressed if they simply called it what it really is... a modern re-incarnation of the 550 roadster. And called the Cayman the 550 Coupe.
This business about giving cars "names" is very dumb. Belts and suspenders...Perhaps for a truly limited edition variant it would make sense.
The other German car brands have wisely stayed away from this marketing nonsense.
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12-10-2015, 01:20 PM
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Marketing is calling it the 718 so they can bag on heritage for the 4cylinder
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12-10-2015, 01:52 PM
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WALDMEISTER
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well, it is obvious where they are going...flat 4 to lower entry class level.
I could imagine 40.990 € starting price to reach a new target group.
And create special editions at model life cycle end...with an "exclusive" overpriced strangled flat 6....whoopideedoo.
I am not impressed, at all.
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12-10-2015, 02:13 PM
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I really wish I could afford to snag a 981 Spyder before they disappear!
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12-11-2015, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGJake111
Marketing is calling it the 718 so they can bag on heritage for the 4cylinder
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more like a head fake. "no we're not selling you a fancied up Jetta engine for $70K at all, we're selling you racing history!".
So can I go "racing" with this new turbo 4 at my local track and still keep my warranty?
Auf keinen Fall!!!
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12-11-2015, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
more like a head fake. "no we're not selling you a fancied up Jetta engine for $70K at all, we're selling you racing history!".
So can I go "racing" with this new turbo 4 at my local track and still keep my warranty?
Auf keinen Fall!!!
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The press release said that the 718 used to set track records and the new 718 boxster Cayman will too.
Marketing mumbo jumbo, or maybe the higher torque and lighter weight will actually make the new cars damn quick (at the expensive of purity)
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12-11-2015, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flouese
Will this change be retroactive or will my 1999 still be referred to as a 986?
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Your 1999 will remain a "Boxster" first and foremost. It will also remain a 986...the 718 designation won't be applied retroactively to older cars.
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12-11-2015, 06:52 PM
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My BMW 228i has a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with 240 hp....and it's rated at 0-60 in 5 seconds.
I had reservations about BMW's decision to begin utilizing a 4-cylinder in place of their 6-cylinder engine, which was devine, in my opinion (good horsepower, good torque, and oh so smooth). However, my experience with the 228 has been more than satisfactory and has restored my faith in BMW's decision makers.
I wouldn't expect anything less from Porsche's decision makers, so rather than panic now, let's wait until the new Boxster/Cayman cars are introduced and tested by the car magazines.
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12-14-2015, 03:02 AM
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"50 Years of 550 Spyder"
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Epa....cafe......
....This move has NOTHING to do with building a "lower cost" car.
It actually costs MORE money to build the 4 cylinder turbo engine.
The reason they are doing this is the same reason the 911 is going turbo and the BMW's are turbo and Honda is now selling small turbo fours---EPA and CAFE.
All the auto manufacturers MUST reduce Co2, NoX, and particulate emissions by a huge amount.
Also, all Corporate Average Fleets MUST be 54.5 MPG by 2025 in the USA.
It's the law.
The car companies have to build these drivetrains.
The days of big, naturally aspirated engines are numbered.
Look at Ferrari, the new 488 is turbo. Look at McLaren. Same.
They aren't building them because they think it's what people want. It's like EVs, they HAVE to build them.
Now, the one GOOD thing about this, is that a turbo engine makes a LOT of torque and you can just "crank up the boost" as a tuner for more performance. To a point..
So, don't blame Porsche. Vote early and vote often.
Anyhow, the 2.0 Turbo Hybrid 919 made 1,000 Horsepower this year, won LeMans, and won the WEC Constructor's World Championship. So.......
Now, having said all that, I LOVE big natural aspirated engines. When I wanted to buy a Porsche, I chose my 2004 Boxster S 50 Years of 550 Spyder specifically because it was "old school", with a 3.2 L NA engine, and no electronic feldercarb.
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12-14-2015, 04:41 AM
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If CAFE would restrict the 500 ancient tahoes and exploders to one Porsche I see they would be far more efficient.
The EPA and overbearing regulations are bull crap, let the consumer decide to support a green company or not.
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12-14-2015, 07:23 AM
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Don't like the 4 cylinder just keep what you got and rebuild it when the time comes. If you like big NA engines then you can increase the size of your engine at the time of rebuild.
As much as I like NA engines they eventually will go away as they pollute too much. The last week the air here in Phoenix has been crap (we get a inversion layer that holds the pollution down) and my lungs can feel it plus the CO2 isn't doing the world any good. One day the turbo charged engine will go away too replaced by a electric motor. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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12-14-2015, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Porsche9
Don't like the 4 cylinder just keep what you got and rebuild it when the time comes. If you like big NA engines then you can increase the size of your engine at the time of rebuild.
As much as I like NA engines they eventually will go away as they pollute too much. The last week the air here in Phoenix has been crap (we get a inversion layer that holds the pollution down) and my lungs can feel it plus the CO2 isn't doing the world any good. One day the turbo charged engine will go away too replaced by a electric motor. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Don't feel guilty about your engine, C02 is good for plant life and the planet. Once the religion of global climate catastrophe doomsday dies down, bigger engines will make a come back. Luckily there's plenty of oil left as well. Hooray!
The 718 sounds like Porsches take on the MX5, back to basics. I like the idea, shame about the engine.
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