Porsche to rename Boxster/Cayman to 718

[10/10ths]

....yes, there are EPA credits based upon vehicle footprint and other waivers to make reaching 54.5 mpg easier without actually achieving that number for their vehicles.

The flip side, however, is that a smaller displacement engine also pollutes less NoX and Co2 and that is also the LAW globally now.

Porsche MUST downsize displacement and add forced induction.

Again, look at what EVERY manufacturer is building now, they are ALL doing this because they ALL have to do this.

Again, the GOOD part is, forced induction engines make great torque, get better mileage, and are pretty easy to hot rod to higher power levels.

We can all debate the merits of "Global Warming", but the politicians have passed the laws and the car companies must build to the regulations.

This is why you have Auto Start-Stop, Active Grill Shutters, Hybrids, etc., they all get the companies to 54.5 MPG by 2025.

The BIG issue is the EV mandate in California, New York, and fourteen other states. Those STATE laws require that 16% of all the vehicles a car company sells in those states MUST be a plug-in of some kind or they get cut off from selling vehicles in those states, whether people want to buy them or not.

That's the tough one.

That's why Porsche announced the big "Tesla fighter" EV car. That's why BMW sells the i3 and i8, that's why Ford, Chevy, Nissan, et. al. sell plug-in hybrid and full EV cars now.

Here's a great round table discussion about the industry and where EVs are heading:

Engineering the Future (Show #1930) on Autoline This Week

Cheers.

P.S.

They will have to pry my naturally aspirated, 3.2 liter, Flat 6 and 2004 Boxster S 50 Years off 550 Spyder Anniversary Edition from my cold, dead, fingers.

[Perfectlap]

^ There is also competitive pressure to look like the most technologically advanced company. When Lamborghini unveiled some outlandishly expensive offering, I believe it was the Veneno, it was widely panned for being stuck in the past meanwhile Porsche was comprehensively obliterating the N-ring lap record using a hybrid 918, McLaren was offering the P1, etc. Electric supercars are as much a high tech throw down to the competition as they are a realization that if they wait too long to jump on alternative energy they might have too much ground to make up in the mass market cars.
Whether its super car or sub $100K SUV or sedan, people are demanding or better yet expecting that you are going to wow them on fuel economy. Otherwise your car company looks dinosaur like. The educated wealthy have a bigger appreciation for high tech than other segments of the market. The car companies can't ignore that, there's good margin in those cars.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by 10/10ths

The BIG issue is the EV mandate in California, New York, and fourteen other states. Those STATE laws require that 16% of all the vehicles a car company sells in those states MUST be a plug-in of some kind or they get cut off from selling vehicles in those states, whether people want to buy them or not.

What the hell happened to liberty?! That makes me want to be a lobbyist; The power should be in the dollar of the consumer, not the government.

[kk2002s]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

What the hell happened to liberty?! That makes me want to be a lobbyist; The power should be in the dollar of the consumer, not the government.

Ok calm down Donald.
Lobbyist look out for special interest, Government is suppose to look out for the good of all citizens. I know, I know, Special interest and the Government go home to bed each night.
I'll bet if you had $5-$10 per gallon gas, The consumer $$$ would chose a 4 cyl turbo getting 40mpg over the v8 getting 18mpg

Then again, freedom and liberty might chose the V8 because it's got 500 hp and it sounds great

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by kk2002s

Ok calm down Donald.
Lobbyist look out for special interest, Government is suppose to look out for the good of all citizens. I know, I know, Special interest and the Government go home to bed each night.
I'll bet if you had $5-$10 per gallon gas, The consumer $$$ would chose a 4 cyl turbo getting 40mpg over the v8 getting 18mpg

Then again, freedom and liberty might chose the V8 because it's got 500 hp and it sounds great

There are enough environmentally conscious people in the world and people trying to save money at the pump to tell companies they want electric cars.

You just shouldn't force things on people or companies, when you leave it to run its course it tends to turn out a lot better.

Besides at least if the world does go to crap then we can blame ourselves rather then others.

As for Donald he's a protectionist which is no better then an environmentalist.

The government exists to police and collect taxes, everything else is best left deregulated and to the private sector, trust the consumer to bankrupt a dirty companies rather then the government.

[Porsche9]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

There are enough environmentally conscious people in the world and people trying to save money at the pump to tell companies they want electric cars.

You just shouldn't force things on people or companies, when you leave it to run its course it tends to turn out a lot better.

Besides at least if the world does go to crap then we can blame ourselves rather then others.

As for Donald he's a protectionist which is no better then an environmentalist.

The government exists to police and collect taxes, everything else is best left deregulated and to the private sector, trust the consumer to bankrupt a dirty companies rather then the government.

Be glad you live in America. It's still alot better then almost all other countries.

A 2.0 with 295 hp sounds good to me as long as they keep the weight low. It much better then the 250 hp that a 986S has. Then new "base" Boxster doesn't sound so base to me.

The 2.5 S with 355 hp is the same power level that the 2005 Carrera S has plus it will have more torque and better gas mileage. I like my flat 6 but either new Boxster wouldn't make me suffer.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

The government exists to police and collect taxes, everything else is best left deregulated and to the private sector, trust the consumer to bankrupt a dirty companies rather then the government.

This sounds true in theory, but the reality is that you can leave things to the government who will do it inefficiently or you can leave it to the private sector who take you to the cleaners, because they effectively own the government. Politicians are now bought and sold to the highest bidder ("corporations are people too now my friend"), these guys moving for higher office can't afford to leave the corporate money on the table (or else their opponent will grab it quick) so they help push either regulation or deregulation that suits their special interest and hurts their smaller competitors. In the end your left with a handful of companies running each industry and the consumer is paying more and more to receive less and less. Or pay the government to do it at a loss in a way that makes no one happy. Pick your poison. In the end it's all about who can write the check to grease the wheels of crony capitalism.