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JayG 12-09-2015 07:33 PM

Porsche to rename Boxster/Cayman to 718
 
Porsche confirm name change for Boxster/Cayman - Pomopar

thstone 12-09-2015 08:08 PM

Its about time! What other car company has different names for coupe and convertible versions of the same car? Plus, I've always hated the cutsie "Boxster" name.

Mine will forever be a 986; (or at least it was until it was totaled and that 986 badge ended up near the 3rd tail light)

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/..._0527small.jpg

flouese 12-10-2015 03:36 AM

Will this change be retroactive or will my 1999 still be referred to as a 986?

tomonomics 12-10-2015 04:42 AM

There will still be Boxster and Cayman names to signify the body style.

So, just like there is: 911 Carrera and 911 Targa and 911 Carrera 4 GTS...

...there will be: 718 Boxster and 718 Cayman and 718 Boxster GTS

Personally, I hope this opens up the door for a mid-engine platform that will slot alongside (above!) the 911. The oft-rumored Ferrari fighter, aka baby 918, aka Cayman GT4 on steroids.

GaryMulcahey 12-10-2015 08:11 AM

Porsche 718 - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG

Going to be flat four turbos.

j.fro 12-10-2015 09:21 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing someone transplant the turbo 4 into a Beck Spyder or that 904 replica.

BRAN 12-10-2015 11:25 AM

I told you our 986 BOXSTERS will be special...
Boxster is in my opinion the best name ever created, so...so logical and still packed with emotions. :D

Well, my Boxster will be my last Boxster I guess. New 718 Boxster/Cayman = 4-cylinders ONLY, nein Danke! :matchup:

Before going there, I become friends with the new Porsche mission e...looks cool :cool:

sound..., who said sounds cool? ;)

Perfectlap 12-10-2015 01:19 PM

I would have been impressed if they simply called it what it really is... a modern re-incarnation of the 550 roadster. And called the Cayman the 550 Coupe.

This business about giving cars "names" is very dumb. Belts and suspenders...Perhaps for a truly limited edition variant it would make sense.
The other German car brands have wisely stayed away from this marketing nonsense.

BIGJake111 12-10-2015 01:20 PM

Marketing is calling it the 718 so they can bag on heritage for the 4cylinder

BRAN 12-10-2015 01:52 PM

well, it is obvious where they are going...flat 4 to lower entry class level.
I could imagine 40.990 € starting price to reach a new target group.

And create special editions at model life cycle end...with an "exclusive" overpriced strangled flat 6....whoopideedoo.

I am not impressed, at all.

crooster 12-10-2015 02:13 PM

I really wish I could afford to snag a 981 Spyder before they disappear!

Perfectlap 12-11-2015 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 476141)
Marketing is calling it the 718 so they can bag on heritage for the 4cylinder

more like a head fake. "no we're not selling you a fancied up Jetta engine for $70K at all, we're selling you racing history!".
So can I go "racing" with this new turbo 4 at my local track and still keep my warranty?
Auf keinen Fall!!!
:chicken:

BIGJake111 12-11-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 476252)
more like a head fake. "no we're not selling you a fancied up Jetta engine for $70K at all, we're selling you racing history!".
So can I go "racing" with this new turbo 4 at my local track and still keep my warranty?
Auf keinen Fall!!!
:chicken:


The press release said that the 718 used to set track records and the new 718 boxster Cayman will too.

Marketing mumbo jumbo, or maybe the higher torque and lighter weight will actually make the new cars damn quick (at the expensive of purity)

VGM911 12-11-2015 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flouese (Post 476076)
Will this change be retroactive or will my 1999 still be referred to as a 986?

Your 1999 will remain a "Boxster" first and foremost. It will also remain a 986...the 718 designation won't be applied retroactively to older cars.

VGM911 12-11-2015 06:52 PM

My BMW 228i has a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with 240 hp....and it's rated at 0-60 in 5 seconds.

I had reservations about BMW's decision to begin utilizing a 4-cylinder in place of their 6-cylinder engine, which was devine, in my opinion (good horsepower, good torque, and oh so smooth). However, my experience with the 228 has been more than satisfactory and has restored my faith in BMW's decision makers.

I wouldn't expect anything less from Porsche's decision makers, so rather than panic now, let's wait until the new Boxster/Cayman cars are introduced and tested by the car magazines.

Pominoz 12-14-2015 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 476057)

I'm not at all keen on the 4 cylinder part, but if it does look anything like this..

http://images.car.bauercdn.com/upload/32737/images/porsche718scoopphoto01.jpg

10/10ths 12-14-2015 03:02 AM

Epa....cafe......
 
....This move has NOTHING to do with building a "lower cost" car.

It actually costs MORE money to build the 4 cylinder turbo engine.

The reason they are doing this is the same reason the 911 is going turbo and the BMW's are turbo and Honda is now selling small turbo fours---EPA and CAFE.

All the auto manufacturers MUST reduce Co2, NoX, and particulate emissions by a huge amount.

Also, all Corporate Average Fleets MUST be 54.5 MPG by 2025 in the USA.

It's the law.

The car companies have to build these drivetrains.

The days of big, naturally aspirated engines are numbered.

Look at Ferrari, the new 488 is turbo. Look at McLaren. Same.

They aren't building them because they think it's what people want. It's like EVs, they HAVE to build them.

Now, the one GOOD thing about this, is that a turbo engine makes a LOT of torque and you can just "crank up the boost" as a tuner for more performance. To a point..

So, don't blame Porsche. Vote early and vote often.

Anyhow, the 2.0 Turbo Hybrid 919 made 1,000 Horsepower this year, won LeMans, and won the WEC Constructor's World Championship. So.......

Now, having said all that, I LOVE big natural aspirated engines. When I wanted to buy a Porsche, I chose my 2004 Boxster S 50 Years of 550 Spyder specifically because it was "old school", with a 3.2 L NA engine, and no electronic feldercarb.

:cheers:

BIGJake111 12-14-2015 04:41 AM

If CAFE would restrict the 500 ancient tahoes and exploders to one Porsche I see they would be far more efficient.

The EPA and overbearing regulations are bull crap, let the consumer decide to support a green company or not.

Porsche9 12-14-2015 07:23 AM

Don't like the 4 cylinder just keep what you got and rebuild it when the time comes. If you like big NA engines then you can increase the size of your engine at the time of rebuild.

As much as I like NA engines they eventually will go away as they pollute too much. The last week the air here in Phoenix has been crap (we get a inversion layer that holds the pollution down) and my lungs can feel it plus the CO2 isn't doing the world any good. One day the turbo charged engine will go away too replaced by a electric motor. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Pominoz 12-14-2015 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche9 (Post 476571)
Don't like the 4 cylinder just keep what you got and rebuild it when the time comes. If you like big NA engines then you can increase the size of your engine at the time of rebuild.

As much as I like NA engines they eventually will go away as they pollute too much. The last week the air here in Phoenix has been crap (we get a inversion layer that holds the pollution down) and my lungs can feel it plus the CO2 isn't doing the world any good. One day the turbo charged engine will go away too replaced by a electric motor. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Don't feel guilty about your engine, C02 is good for plant life and the planet. Once the religion of global climate catastrophe doomsday dies down, bigger engines will make a come back. Luckily there's plenty of oil left as well. Hooray!

The 718 sounds like Porsches take on the MX5, back to basics. I like the idea, shame about the engine.


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