07-17-2017, 09:38 PM
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#481
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Location: Oklahoma
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This one says it's purple, so I think it is Viola Metallic. Yes, it has high mileage and needs a little TLC, but it's VIOLA METALLIC. That alone is worth $5k or so.
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/porsche-boxster/6192708292.html
Looks like it comes with hard top and a lot of extra parts.
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07-18-2017, 11:36 AM
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#482
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Location: Saint Louis
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Too many miles?
How many miles is too many miles for these M96 engines? I found what may be a good deal but it has 172,000 miles. Everything else I see out there is around 60k-100k but most owners seem to be over asking.
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07-18-2017, 11:38 AM
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#483
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Location: Stow, MA
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The highest I have heard is just over 300,000 miles, and that was a car that was tracked extensively.
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2004 Boxster S Silver - FUNTOY
2002 Boxster Base Guardsy Red - FUNBOX
1987 Caterham Super 7 1700 Supersprint
2009 Mercedes Benz CLK 350 convertible
1941 Dodge Luxury Liner Coupe
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07-18-2017, 12:19 PM
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#484
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Location: Chandler, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McHeinzky
How many miles is too many miles for these M96 engines? I found what may be a good deal but it has 172,000 miles. Everything else I see out there is around 60k-100k but most owners seem to be over asking.
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What's over asking? Mileage is important but at the age these cars are at maintenance is much more important. If there is proof of maintenance throughout the years the the Boxster in question is likely a better candidate then a low mileage garage queen that has had little done over the years. Keep in mind there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche. You going to pay now or later with later generally being more expensive.
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07-18-2017, 01:38 PM
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#485
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I bought my 2002 Red S with 194k miles on it last year. No maintenance records to speak of and the CEL on. Put 3k into the cam chain adjuster and drive it like I stole it. Still going with 204k miles now. Paid 5900 for it and keep up with my 911 buddies in their 40k cars!
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02 Red S. 4th owner 198k miles , now 225k miles and still going strong.
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07-18-2017, 01:43 PM
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#486
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Location: Saint Louis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Porsche9
What's over asking? Mileage is important but at the age these cars are at maintenance is much more important. If there is proof of maintenance throughout the years the the Boxster in question is likely a better candidate then a low mileage garage queen that has had little done over the years. Keep in mind there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche. You going to pay now or later with later generally being more expensive.
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The one I looked at this weekend was a 2002 Boxster S with 66,000 miles that he wants $12,000 for. The only records he had were oil changes from a Jiffy Lube type place. He said he bought the car from an auction and has had it for 5 years, putting 16,000 miles on it. He only has one key, no windscreen, and the tires that came with it. He has also never heard of an IMS bearing. I figure I'd have to drive it straight to my local Porsche expert and get the following:
IMS bearing
New clutch
Replace the rear main seal
Four new tires.
Then, I'd want to do the following:
Add the wind deflector
Replace the missing cruise control cap
Add a magnetic drain plug
Replace the dented spoiler cap
Replace both drop-down window switches
Order a new owner's manual (if possible)
Program a new key
I calculated all those to add up to about $5,500 - $6,800, assuming nothing else was discovered during a PPI.
I'm also hesitant to buy from someone who owned it for 5 years and didn't know they had a rear spoiler that extends at high speeds (I showed him how to put it up).
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07-18-2017, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rczap
I bought my 2002 Red S with 194k miles on it last year. No maintenance records to speak of and the CEL on. Put 3k into the cam chain adjuster and drive it like I stole it. Still going with 204k miles now. Paid 5900 for it and keep up with my 911 buddies in their 40k cars!
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That's a pretty good testimony!
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07-18-2017, 03:15 PM
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Location: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McHeinzky
The one I looked at this weekend was a 2002 Boxster S with 66,000 miles that he wants $12,000 for. The only records he had were oil changes from a Jiffy Lube type place. He said he bought the car from an auction and has had it for 5 years, putting 16,000 miles on it. He only has one key, no windscreen, and the tires that came with it. He has also never heard of an IMS bearing. I figure I'd have to drive it straight to my local Porsche expert and get the following:
IMS bearing
New clutch
Replace the rear main seal
Four new tires.
Then, I'd want to do the following:
Add the wind deflector
Replace the missing cruise control cap
Add a magnetic drain plug
Replace the dented spoiler cap
Replace both drop-down window switches
Order a new owner's manual (if possible)
Program a new key
I calculated all those to add up to about $5,500 - $6,800, assuming nothing else was discovered during a PPI.
I'm also hesitant to buy from someone who owned it for 5 years and didn't know they had a rear spoiler that extends at high speeds (I showed him how to put it up).
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This does not sound like a 12k car. I'd expect A LOT of records from a caring owner for that price. Locally, this would be a $9-10k car at best.
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07-18-2017, 03:30 PM
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#489
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dghii
This does not sound like a 12k car. I'd expect A LOT of records from a caring owner for that price. Locally, this would be a $9-10k car at best.
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That's more in line with what I was thinking. I told the guy a good set of records was worth a lot with these cars and his response was that he hasn't had any issues yet...
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07-19-2017, 04:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McHeinzky
2002 Boxster S with 66,000 miles that he wants $12,000 for.
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That's a fair market price.
I suspect you'll be looking for a long time for your holy grail deal of a lifetime.
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07-19-2017, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarwood
That's a fair market price.
I suspect you'll be looking for a long time for your holy grail deal of a lifetime.
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Even with no maintenance records?
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07-19-2017, 07:13 PM
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How many service records does a car with 66k really have?
Sure, records are great, but are they a deal breaker?
Why not assume there has been NO work done, and the car ran flawlessly from day one.
What do you think it's now worth?
If I bought that car with 66k, I would
Replace all fluids (diff, brake fluid, oil, coolant, steering, gearbox)
Spark plugs, air filter, belts, hoses.
There's your service history you'd have anyways.
Now, it's all current for $300.
Last edited by sugarwood; 07-19-2017 at 07:17 PM.
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07-19-2017, 08:37 PM
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#495
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66k miles is a long way to go without an oil change. Just sayin'...
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07-19-2017, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarwood
That's a fair market price.
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Not really.
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07-19-2017, 10:21 PM
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#497
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Damn Yankee
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VII
He likely has the key in the on/acc position but has not started it.
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You are correct; my bad. I was able to duplicate the screen shot with my wife's Cayman.
But it illustrates a point I've made before; if one wants to successfully sell a Porsche, at least consider how the pictures will look to prospective buyers. A myriad of warning lights doesn't look good. Neither do these actual pictures of Porsche dashes displayed in ads:
Stationary........and 1000 RPM above redline.
Oil level below minimum.
Just sayin'.............
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07-20-2017, 05:25 AM
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$12000 for an S with only 66,000 miles is an okay deal in Texas. I've seen lower and higher for an equivalent S.
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07-20-2017, 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi Cooper
66k miles is a long way to go without an oil change. Just sayin'...
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What are the odds of someone buying a $50,000 sports car and never changing the oil ?
Like I said, he's not wrong, but I suspect he will be looking for many years for his perfect unicorn.
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07-20-2017, 06:45 AM
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#500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by particlewave
Not really.
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Ok, let's see some for sale ads of Boxster S under $12k.
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