View Poll Results: Heel N Toe
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Yes, I can do it consistently
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I can do it occasionally
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I screw it up everytime
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30.12% |
What's heel and toe?
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04-13-2007, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Los Angeles
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The boxster (IMHO) doesn't have a very good stock pedal arrangement for Heel-and-Toe. Compared to my friend's 300zx, the pedals are quite offset and not nearly as easy to do. Maybe I need to try one of those custom pedal sets or something.
-David
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04-13-2007, 04:20 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
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I find the pedal placement much easier to attempt heel toe in my Boxster (over my Miata) In fact when I first got the Boxster, on several occasions when I was hard on the brake pedal, I was depressing the accelerator pedal too.
It is just not practical (or safe) for me to practice on public streets. I bet with just a few hours on a closed course I could get over the initial learning curve though.
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04-13-2007, 04:20 PM
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#3
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
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h & T? that's too complicated LOL
I'm working on left foot braking.
h&T just doesn't go smoothly for me in the Boxster like it did other cars.
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04-13-2007, 04:54 PM
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#4
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Location: Virginia
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I do it. Most of the AX venues I run are 2nd gear ones, so I haven't worried about it in an AX evironment. Track - absolutely. Spirited driving - yup.
It takes a lot of practice. Some folks get different pedal pads to better align the pedals, or make them feel closer. Never bothered with them though. Just practice. It will come to you. Then, try Left Foot Braking like PerfectLap. That is one I just can't do. Tried, but not enough to get the delicate feel/balance that my right foot already provides.
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04-13-2007, 05:21 PM
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I heel and toe every chance I get on the street. I guess that just being an 18 y/o though, lol. Ive gotten pretty good, I dont do hard braking with a flick of the gas to match it, I do regular brake with a slight press down on the gas to match revs. Fun fun...
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04-13-2007, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NJ
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The irony of this pole for me is that I own a tiptronic...
I learned the heal/tow or "uprev" technique on a race car and I felt pretty comfortable with it after one complete day at the track.
That said I am not sure how proficient I would be with a street car and it's pedal layout.
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04-13-2007, 05:51 PM
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Porsche "Purist"
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,123
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35 years experience, is there any other way to drive?
It's really the ball of your foot on the brake and the right side of your foot on the gas (at least the way I do it--Quad E shoe size).
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04-13-2007, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis
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I have been experimenting with it and I am very bad at it. I can match revs without braking but doing it all at once is not coming naturally. If I do get the heel toe to work right then i have problems doing an efficient foot transfer back to the gas coming out of the turn.
I think it just takes alot of practice. I'm going to my first driver training class later this month so I'll be interested to see if they want us to use that on the track.
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04-13-2007, 06:39 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
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07-28-2015, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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I don't really heel toe. I brake with the ball of my foot and flip the gas pedal with the toe and edge of my foot. I am very consistent but mostly only use it on the track.
I can't left foot brake the car accelerator doesn't work if the brake is pushed in any amount.
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