Moving up to Street Prepared worth it?

[3RotorRx7]

To your original question, I would say that a street prepared setup and Hoosiers would by worth very close to 3 seconds. However, until the Boxster goes to a turbocharged 4 cylinder, the Boxster is not the best car for ASP compared to the boost buggie AWD cars and the boosted Solstice/Sky. Your car in BS, if you have the Boxster S, is one of the top cars that I think can win in the new BS class. Your time differential to the top 5 can probably be made up going to Version 2 RS-3's all around, as they are proving to be the best street tire for the Street class at this point. I would agree going to a larger rear bar on your car as the stock chassis tends to struggle with push. Also, if you are faster than Courtney, you are driving very very well, keep it up!

Erik Strelnieks
30 years autocross experience, past SEB member, a have prepped a few Championship cars in Stock, SP, Prepared, and Street Modified.

Originally Posted by truegearhead

Here’s my current situation: I have a few sessions of autocrossing under my belt but this is the first season I’ve run every event. I’ve gone to classes, participated in practice events and have done 77 runs in total this year alone. Currently I’m tenth in points in my club and I know its about car control etc etc but I’m a little competitive and really want to be running in the top 5 of PAX times. Of course my focus will be to continue on improving my driving but I’d like to move into ASP next year with a goal of running in the top 5 Pax. Using my last event which I think is pretty average I’d need to drop 3 seconds off of my 51 second run to put me in the top 5 (including the time penalty from the new classification). In my current class I’m about .6 seconds behind (still a lot of time!). So the question in (which is not easy to answer) will coilovers, wide Hoosiers and camber plates be enough to drop me 3 seconds? Currently I’m running BF Rivals which aren’t half bad to begin with. I’d like to feel this out before I make a huge investment moving my car up a class. So what do you think is a street prepared setup with Hoosiers worth a WOOPING 3 SECONDS?

Here’s a snap shot of the last event (I did not include anyone below me)

Pax Pos. Pos. Class # Driver Car Model Total Factor Pax Time Diff. From 1st
1 1 ssp 1 Cann, Christopher 04 Chevy z06 47.448 *0.872 41.374 0.000 0.000
2 1 xp 322 Chamberlain, Wade 65 FFR Roadster 46.082 *0.906 41.750 0.376 0.376
3 1 csp 117 Schmidt, Jeff 95 Mazda Miata 48.637 *0.861 41.876 0.126 0.502
4 1 gs 365 Holzer, Stephen 14 Ford Focus ST 52.210 *0.806 42.081 0.205 0.707
5 1 hs 147 Comier, Cortney Cooper 52.941 *0.797 42.194 0.113 0.820
6 1 stc 53 Chenery, Jeff 90 Honda Civic 51.394 *0.824 42.348 0.154 0.974
7 1 csr 161 Chaplin, Kevin 07 Nissan 350Z Nismo 50.985 *0.834 42.521 0.173 1.147
8 1 sts 26 Banks, Joseph 90 Mazda Miata 51.411 *0.829 42.619 0.098 1.245
9 1 cam 51 Inskeep, Paul Merkur 50.776 *0.840 42.651 0.032 1.277
10 1 as 45 Harrison, Robert 07 Chevrolet Corvette 51.300 *0.833 42.732 0.081 1.358
11 1 stx 78 Ogburn, David 09 Mini JCW 51.702 *0.827 42.757 0.025 1.383
12 1 bs 130 Burgh, Stuart 97 Porsche Boxster 51.544 *0.831 42.833 0.076 1.459

[Bigsmoothlee]

Originally Posted by Brad Roberts

I read through ALL the posts.. NOBODY asked him what the car was doing (or not doing) LOL

You don't want ANY piece of ASP.. stay out..

Back to the car: what's it doing or not doing? Low speed understeer? High speed understeer? Low speed oversteer? High speed oversteer?

I tell everyone to leave the cars alone until your ass is calibrated and can tell me/us what it's doing.

I agree, ASP is dominated by big HP cars... Which class besides stock would you run in, supposing you want to mod the car? I mean, street tires and suspension will only get you so far. I went with coilovers and wide slicks because I wanted the car to go faster, plus, Its a way bigger rush putting down good times....

Originally Posted by 3RotorRx7

To your original question, I would say that a street prepared setup and Hoosiers would by worth very close to 3 seconds. However, until the Boxster goes to a turbocharged 4 cylinder, the Boxster is not the best car for ASP compared to the boost buggie AWD cars and the boosted Solstice/Sky. Your car in BS, if you have the Boxster S, is one of the top cars that I think can win in the new BS class. Your time differential to the top 5 can probably be made up going to Version 2 RS-3's all around, as they are proving to be the best street tire for the Street class at this point. I would agree going to a larger rear bar on your car as the stock chassis tends to struggle with push. Also, if you are faster than Courtney, you are driving very very well, keep it up!

Erik Strelnieks
30 years autocross experience, past SEB member, a have prepped a few Championship cars in Stock, SP, Prepared, and Street Modified.

For the nationals, didnt the S2000s take the first 10 spots in BS? I think there may have been a boxster or cayman in 13th or 14th place. I dont think they stand a chance in any class with the SCCA

[3RotorRx7]

The winning CR S2000 now run in AS under new classification system.

Originally Posted by Bigsmoothlee

I agree, ASP is dominated by big HP cars... Which class besides stock would you run in, supposing you want to mod the car? I mean, street tires and suspension will only get you so far. I went with coilovers and wide slicks because I wanted the car to go faster, plus, Its a way bigger rush putting down good times....



For the nationals, didnt the S2000s take the first 10 spots in BS? I think there may have been a boxster or cayman in 13th or 14th place. I dont think they stand a chance in any class with the SCCA

[Bigsmoothlee]

Originally Posted by 3RotorRx7

The winning CR S2000 now run in AS under new classification system.

Yes, the S2000 CR was moved up to AS.... I think the Honda S2000 base should be moved up to AS as well.