Obtaining historical records

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Good question. I guess some former owners are concerned about being sued for negligence, if a lack of maintenance was found that led to an accident? It's the only thing I can think of. Or privacy issues? Who knows. But if JFP in PA says it's a thing, then it's a thing. I'm just as baffled about it as you.

It has to do with new car dealerships selling information about their customers to firms that compile statistical automotive data; someone somewhere took exception to the dealerships making money off of their information without them even knowing about it. When the dealers did not share the $, and showed no inclination to stop doing it, someone file suit over who "owned" the information, and was therefore entitled to any $ associated with its dissemination or use.

A couple of the usual ambulance chasers saw a chance to make money off of this and turned the filing into a class action, where anyone that had bought a car or had it serviced was entitled to damages, which they had to share with the ambulance chasers. Because the problem crossed state lines, it became a federal legal matter, which means the ruling affects every shop in the country.

Next thing you know, your service data became akin to a national secret. This was your classical pyric victory for the car owners, as very few actually got more than lunch money out of the settlement, the industry is saddled with rules requiring secure storage protection for all customer information, which raised service costs, which were promptly added to every service invoice. Only the lawyers actually won anything of consequence...……..

[ty_wheels]

nice, some criminal find a loop hole in the system and now we all have to suffer because of that

[TeamOxford]

Getting a bit off track here, aren't we?

So, do you have a replacement engine or not?

Just wonderin'...........

TO

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by TeamOxford

Getting a bit off track here, aren't we?

So, do you have a replacement engine or not?

Just wonderin'...........

TO

As has been mentioned before, he'll have to check the serial number on the motor.

[ty_wheels]

TO - if you have an idea how I can see the engine serial number
w/o lifting the car, I would be happy to hear it.

Otherwise, the next time I'm around the Porsche shop I'll go in and ask
them nicely to lift the car and check

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by ty_wheels

nice, some criminal find a loop hole in the system and now we all have to suffer because of that

Was never the result of criminal action, but rather simple greed.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

It has to do with new car dealerships selling information about their customers to firms that compile statistical automotive data; someone somewhere took exception to the dealerships making money off of their information without them even knowing about it. When the dealers did not share the $, and showed no inclination to stop doing it, someone file suit over who "owned" the information, and was therefore entitled to any $ associated with its dissemination or use.

A couple of the usual ambulance chasers saw a chance to make money off of this and turned the filing into a class action, where anyone that had bought a car or had it serviced was entitled to damages, which they had to share with the ambulance chasers. Because the problem crossed state lines, it became a federal legal matter, which means the ruling affects every shop in the country.

Next thing you know, your service data became akin to a national secret. This was your classical pyric victory for the car owners, as very few actually got more than lunch money out of the settlement, the industry is saddled with rules requiring secure storage protection for all customer information, which raised service costs, which were promptly added to every service invoice. Only the lawyers actually won anything of consequence...……..

Wow. And yet, IIRC, we still don't own our own DNA.