Which IMS solution?

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by piper6909

I don't know whether it's bad or not to flood the IMS tube with oil. It is my understanding that oil finds its way in there anyway and gets trapped. Maybe allowing it to circulate and refresh itself may not be such a bad idea.

It's just a thought, I'm in no way an expert in this matter. But the concept makes sense to me.

Then explain the patented plug in the IMS shaft used by the IMS Solution, specifically to keep oil from flooding the shaft..............

[10/10ths]

The IMS Solution to invest in is the “IMS Solution” developed by Jake Raby of Flat 6 Innovations and LN Engineering.

Use the Google.

It works.

It is a permanent fix.

Just do it.

I did, and 35,000 miles later I’m still driving the piss outta her with zero worry and sleep great at night.

Now, about your oil and tire choices...

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by 10/10ths

The IMS Solution to invest in is the “IMS Solution” developed by Jake Raby of Flat 6 Innovations and LN Engineering.

Use the Google.

It works.

It is a permanent fix.

Just do it.

I did, and 35,000 miles later I’m still driving the piss outta her with zero worry and sleep great at night.

Now, about your oil and tire choices...

I'm sure it works well. I just don't think it's the ONLY solution. To me, the EPS is just as permanent of a fix at a less than 1/3 the cost, and fewer parts to go wrong like a flex tube outside the motor.

[Rob175]

I've got to just say that my 1998 (all stock) Boxster w/ manual trans and 87,000 summer driving only miles, has the orginal IMS and I have no plans to touch it. I've talked to 3 Porsche dealer veteran mechanics and a large Chicago "indi" shop specializing in Porsche's, Audi's and Mercedes......in total they claim to have only seen 3 Porsche's that have suffered a IMS failure in the last 15-20 yrs.

To be fair, a couple did say that if one was to do the clutch, then it's probably "not a terrible idea" to change out the IMS bearing but none thought it was something that needed to be done proactively. They believed it all depends on the overall condition and value of the car as to if it makes sense to JUST do the IMS.

I suppose everyone has their own take on the subject....at one time there was a survey/poll on this Forum but I can't seem to find it.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by Rob175

I've got to just say that my 1989 (all stock) Boxster w/ manual trans and 87,000 summer driving only miles, has the orginal IMS and I have no plans to touch it. .

You've got an '89 Boxster? Wasn't that called a "Fiero"?

[Starter986]

Wait. Did someone say oil and tires?

[paulofto]

Originally Posted by Starter986

Wait. Did someone say oil and tires?

You know what this forum needs? More discussion on oil and tires....... and alternate IMS bearings. And coolant colour. And whether to oil or not oil a K&N filter.

[Rob175]

OOPS......typo....it's a 1998 not an 89....LOL

[maytag]

Originally Posted by piper6909

I'm sure it works well. I just don't think it's the ONLY solution. To me, the EPS is just as permanent of a fix at a less than 1/3 the cost, and fewer parts to go wrong like a flex tube outside the motor.

I have no FHE with the EPS product, nor the LN product, in and of themselves. But I agree with the general statement that there isn't one RIGHT way, with all the others being wrong. This 'religion' that y'all have formed around LN / Jake Raby is alarming, and frankly, leads to the poor production quality we've seen in his products. To speak in terms Piper would understand: Raby is sorta like Trump, in that to his followers, he can do no wrong. Raby could walk out and literally put a bullet in your motor and still convince you it was caused by the LWFW.

I see no reason to suggest that the EPS isn't as good a solution as any other.... and it is most CERTAINLY "good enough".

My own decision with the used motor I just installed in my car was to just leave the IMS alone. There are WAAAY too many other things that can take the motor out, for me to start worrying about something with such a statistically-low failure rate.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

To speak in terms Piper would understand: Raby is sorta like Trump, in that to his followers, he can do no wrong. Raby could walk out and literally put a bullet in your motor and still convince you it was caused by the LWFW.

HAha! I love it!

But what does LWFW mean? Left Wing ______ ______ ?

Originally Posted by maytag

But I agree with the general statement that there isn't one RIGHT way, with all the others being wrong.

I see no reason to suggest that the EPS isn't as good a solution as any other.... and it is most CERTAINLY "good enough".

There are WAAAY too many other things that can take the motor out, for me to start worrying about something with such a statistically-low failure rate.

EDIT: And BTW, we actually agree on something!! :dance:

[maytag]

Originally Posted by piper6909

But what does LWFW mean? Left Wing ______ ______ ?

Light Weight Fly Wheel. hahaha

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

Light Weight Fly Wheel. hahaha

HAHA!! Too funny!

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Then explain the patented plug in the IMS shaft used by the IMS Solution, specifically to keep oil from flooding the shaft..............

Maybe because with the IMS Solution the oil has nowhere to go on the other end, and thus unable to circulate.

The IMS Solution pumps oil into the bearing from the outside. You don't want that oil going through the bearing into the IMS tube with nowhere else to go because it'll remain there and get stale. That's why they have to use a plug.

The EPS Solution is to feed oil from one end of the tube, out the other end, into the bearing and back into the pan. This allows for circulation.