So I drove a 67 Camaro

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I drove a red '67 (forget if that's right) Camaro.
I want a muscle car.
They are cool.

Hi,

I owned a '68 Z28 (sticker option only in '68 - RS color scheme) in the early '70's. All that torque, and they're just so raw and unrefined. Gives them a wonderful quality all their own...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[Perfectlap]

well the last time I actually sat in one of these types was about 30 years ago!
This one I just drove had racing seats and harness belts and a cluctch from a C5.
The first thing I noted was how good visibility was, clear views all around.
The second was how tight the steering was. I thought it would be like steering a tug boat with one of those giant wheels you would see on cruise ship.
Pulling out onto the road the car's rumble gave me a feeling like I was a cool guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled into my t-shirt.
The ride was very comfortable! So loud at cruising speeds. And it felt very well planted in turns. Would I love to take this for an autocross lap...

Driving a boring, predictable, over engineered, compact/low sitting German roadster made this very refreshing. Great resales on some of these car too.
I rented a hardtop 05 mustang a few months back and driving a nearly 40 year old car makes me want to put that 05 mustang in a trash compactor. I wonder if the new Challenger will do better at giving you that muscle car experience.

[stephenmeade]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Pulling out onto the road the car's rumble gave me a feeling like I was a cool guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled into my t-shirt.

I know *exactly* what you're talking about. My brother had (as his first car, no less) a '68 Mustang California Special. That car had a lot of undesirable qualities, but even with just a 289 2BB flowmaster exhaust, turning out into traffic and laying the hammer always brought at least one small moment of automotive bliss.

In the Subaru world there is something very similar. Everyone knows the equal-length headers offer a performance improvement, yet so many people refuse to install them because they eliminate the "boxer rumble." Even after 3.5 years I still get goosebumps turning the key and hearing the engine bark to life and settle into its baritone rumble.

Stephen