So I drove a 67 Camaro

[Perfectlap]

I drove a red '67 (forget if that's right) Camaro.
I want a muscle car.
They are cool.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I drove a red '67 (forget if that's right) Camaro.
I want a muscle car.
They are cool.

Hi,

I owned a '68 Z28 (sticker option only in '68 - RS color scheme) in the early '70's. All that torque, and they're just so raw and unrefined. Gives them a wonderful quality all their own...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[Perfectlap]

well the last time I actually sat in one of these types was about 30 years ago!
This one I just drove had racing seats and harness belts and a cluctch from a C5.
The first thing I noted was how good visibility was, clear views all around.
The second was how tight the steering was. I thought it would be like steering a tug boat with one of those giant wheels you would see on cruise ship.
Pulling out onto the road the car's rumble gave me a feeling like I was a cool guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled into my t-shirt.
The ride was very comfortable! So loud at cruising speeds. And it felt very well planted in turns. Would I love to take this for an autocross lap...

Driving a boring, predictable, over engineered, compact/low sitting German roadster made this very refreshing. Great resales on some of these car too.
I rented a hardtop 05 mustang a few months back and driving a nearly 40 year old car makes me want to put that 05 mustang in a trash compactor. I wonder if the new Challenger will do better at giving you that muscle car experience.

[stephenmeade]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Pulling out onto the road the car's rumble gave me a feeling like I was a cool guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled into my t-shirt.

I know *exactly* what you're talking about. My brother had (as his first car, no less) a '68 Mustang California Special. That car had a lot of undesirable qualities, but even with just a 289 2BB flowmaster exhaust, turning out into traffic and laying the hammer always brought at least one small moment of automotive bliss.

In the Subaru world there is something very similar. Everyone knows the equal-length headers offer a performance improvement, yet so many people refuse to install them because they eliminate the "boxer rumble." Even after 3.5 years I still get goosebumps turning the key and hearing the engine bark to life and settle into its baritone rumble.

Stephen

[jeffsquire]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I drove a red '67 (forget if that's right) Camaro.
I want a muscle car.
They are cool.

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I hear you. One of my favortie tv shows now is American Hot Rod and Monster Garage. Sometimes I just wonder about owning one of those old classics. . . .

[Perfectlap]

to be honest I've never really had an interest(in possibly owning) Muscle cars.
A big huge lumbering car sitting on leaf springs has never appealed to me. Always made me think of NASCAR (the ole NASCAR not this new slick version). Low tech power assited-nothing,no r&p steering, carbeurated evil on big huge rear tires.

Former Indy 500 Juan Montoya chose NASCAR instead of following a different road course formula for his post-F1 career. After driving this Camaro I can see the logic/apppeal. I felt bored driving home in my uber refined BoxsterS afterwards, never thought that would happen as consequence of driving a 'Made in the USA'.

[Brucelee]

The early Camaros were fun. Cheap to buy, quick out of the gate, decent handling for what they were. They looked good, relatively light etc etc.

Good stuff.

[BadBoyS]

I've had my 68 ss 396 camaro for 5 years now and when ever I need the
horsepower rush I jump in and drop the clutch on the Muncie 4 speed and grab rubber in all gears. I'm lucky to appreciate both worlds the rawnessof the Camaro and the precision of my Box S. I just wish the box was appreciating like my other cars!!!!!!!

:dance:

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

to be honest I've never really had an interest(in possibly owning) Muscle cars.

Low tech power assited-nothing,no r&p steering, carbeurated evil on big huge rear tires.

I felt bored driving home in my uber refined BoxsterS afterwards, never thought that would happen as consequence of driving a 'Made in the USA'.

I had one of my musclecars out yesterday. They're great fun but they don't make me bored of the Boxster. They have very different purposes. You have to view them each for what they are and understand that it's not an either/or proposition. A musclecar is a loud, obnoxious, attention grabbing pig. My Mach 1 has waaay too much horsepower (most of which is wasted because of traction limitations), gets about 11 miles to the gallon, and sounds like an earthquake...But, if you're looking to draw a crowd, get horn honks, thumbs ups, and scare the kids in their stupid fart cars, there's nothing like it. The nice thing about having a later musclecar is that there is air conditioning, power steering, power disc brakes, etc. There was no rack and pinion in '72, but they are reasonably precise if the box is tight. The drawbacks are that they don't go around corners, you're not having an intimate conversation in one (at least not mine), your date is not going to enjoy smelling like spent fossil fuel all night and they're tempermental as hell.

The Boxster, on the other hand, is docile and civilized. It's as comfortable at the yacht club as it is at the autocross. It is exclusive, but still pedestrian enough that you can arrive in relative anonymity. It is quiet enough to enjoy your George Winston CDs, romantic on a starry night, and comfortable enough to drive to work everyday.

If you have the storage space, I strongly recommend one of each!

[Ronzi]

In '68 I had a decision to make ... a Z28 Camaro, an SS396 Chevelle, or a Plymouth Road Runner (the 383 variety; the Hemi was, as I recall, $900 extra). I picked the Chevelle, 350hp, 4spd, no power steering, no AC.
After two years of more or less constant valve guide problems on the big block 396, I regretted not getting the Z28.

[crzn427]

I can remember riding home in my Dad's new '67 Cougar in the fall of '66. It came equiped with a 390, 4 bbl, 4 spd, AM only radio, no P/S, no P/B, no A/C.

I bought it from my Mother when Dad died. It never fails to put a smile on my face when I drive it. It has a smooth ride, is quiet inside at highway speeds, handles better that most Muscle cars of the era, and is very quick.

I can, and do, perform the maintainance needed to keep it on the road for around 20% of what the boxster costs.

It gets around 17 on the highway, I don't bother to check city mileage, polutes more than it should, has those aforementioned hydrocarbon smells from time to time inside, has poor performing drum brakes all around (one of my soon to happen up-grades), needs a paint job and some other TLC.

It will be in the driveway when the Boxster gets replaced with our next "modern" car.

It has style, it has charm and it has grace. It is a nasty beast when provoked and I love it.

The Boxster has a whole set of values, attributes and acolades that are totally different and every bit as enjoyable.

The only thing the two have in common (other than four wheels and a drive train) is the joy to drive them as often as possible.

[Iatros]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

to be honest I've never really had an interest(in possibly owning) Muscle cars.
A big huge lumbering car sitting on leaf springs has never appealed to me. Low tech power assited-nothing,no r&p steering, carbeurated evil on big huge rear tires.

Funny... those are the exact reasons why I love my 74 Vette

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Iatros

Funny... those are the exact reasons why I love my 74 Vette

You had to be there!

[MNBoxster]

Hi,

Well, it looks like the techno-geeks have figured out the attachment problem, so as promised, here are some pics of my friend Owen's 1965 Ferrari 275 GTS. These were taken saturday at a local Wheels of Italy Car Show where Owen recieved Best of Show for this car. BTW, the guy will even bring his rare, $$$, and unique cars out in the rain, a true Enthusiast! There is even a rare pic of Mrs.MNBoxster standing shivering under the umbrella... enjoy

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99