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Old 08-13-2018, 12:03 PM   #1
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As I mentioned in my earlier post if you want a 986 get a 2003-2004. I've owned both a 1999 & 2003. 2003 is a way better car in every way with a larger motor.

I had my IMS changed on the 2003 at 75,000 miles when I replaced the clutch and it was perfect.

Don't buy an older car because your worried about a problem that's 90% it won't happen!

People are blowing this single row IMS way out of proportion. My Indy shop works on a lot of Porsches and he said he's never seen a bad IMS yet!
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Old 08-13-2018, 02:56 PM   #2
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The new wife said 7k budget she did not say beyond that.Once again there is no such thing as a cheap porsche, they will get you in the end.
okay maybe not 10k first year but at least 2k a year. Get the car, any car, as long as she gives you a maintenance budget of 2k a year.If you dont spend it great but you will go over sometime. PPI is a must. Alot of people dont understand performance car maintenance cost.For the sake of happiness tell your wife it is going to cost more than a oil change like the toyota! It sucks trying to ask for money in a marriage for your car that is not too practical.The first bill I had I said to the mechanic what am I going to tell my wife?
He said DONT TELL HER! LOL Hard to do when I dont handle the money. One thing for sure...There is no substitute. For me worth every penny and all the aggravation.Good Luck
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but at least 2k a year. Get the car, any car, as long as she gives you a maintenance budget of 2k a year.If you dont spend it great
I guess this is for guys that can't work on their own cars.

I've owned mine for almost 8 years, and excluding tires and oil changes, I haven't broken $2k total for the entire 8 years, never mind every year.
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Old 08-13-2018, 05:04 PM   #4
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I guess this is for guys that can't work on their own cars.

I've owned mine for almost 8 years, and excluding tires and oil changes, I haven't broken $2k total for the entire 8 years, never mind every year.
I was thinking the SAME THING.
My case aside ('cuz all bets are off when you start tracking it, haha) I think most items that come up regularly could be handled DIY with standard tools, a meager budget and a modicum of bad words.
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For guys that dont work on there own cars goes without saying. With 5000 plus posts you have plenty of time to dedicate to the car. Just wondering how much your tools and lift cost as well as the actual garage not to mention your time which from listening to you to guys an hour of your time is not worth much....actually nothing according to your accounting.Mazada Miata is a good recommendation and 2k is not unreasonable....maybe he wants a stereo or some tools, a lift. mmmmmmmm. I have changed my own oil once it was ok but didnt save gobs of money.I have found some jobs satisfying but I feel that diy is the only way to own the car within a budget is not a good car for a person.
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Just wondering, How much does a track day cost or track tires? Bottom line Porsche costs money period.
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Why exclude tires and oil changes? These cars are notorious for chewing thru rear tires in no time even when aligned properly which has to be done more than every 2 years. You are fooling yourself if you think you are not spending money.You would tell a person that your house will only cost the mortgage in your budget just exclude elec. and water.Like I told the OP earlier start a 2k + or - . Or 10k in time tools etc... PARTS! I guess those are excluded too!
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Just wondering, How much does a track day cost or track tires? Bottom line Porsche costs money period.
All cars cost money, Porsches just make it worth it........ period.

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For guys that dont work on there own cars goes without saying. With 5000 plus posts you have plenty of time to dedicate to the car. Just wondering how much your tools and lift cost as well as the actual garage not to mention your time which from listening to you to guys an hour of your time is not worth much....actually nothing according to your accounting.Mazada Miata is a good recommendation and 2k is not unreasonable....maybe he wants a stereo or some tools, a lift. mmmmmmmm. I have changed my own oil once it was ok but didnt save gobs of money.I have found some jobs satisfying but I feel that diy is the only way to own the car within a budget is not a good car for a person.
Could not disagree more with this. (I think. It's honestly tough to tell exactly what you're trying to say)
In my experience, Most car "enthusiasts" like to tinker, and turn wrenches. So while my time during the day at work bills at a couple hundred bucks per hour, my time at home is spent doing what I enjoy. If that happens to also save me from having to pay somebody a couple hundred bucks an hour, so much the better.

Growing up, I always had "fun" cars. Cars that were different from what everyone else had. Buying cars with "character" opens a wealth of learning opportunities. But just as importantly, it teaches the value of money, because if I can do something (as a 20 yr old kid) that somebody else would charge me $100/hr to do, then I'm making $100/hr while I'm doing it, right?

If you don't enjoy wrenching, then this may seem foreign to you..... just as your post does to me, haha.

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I am trying to say that these cars average about 2k year in maintenance. Trying to help the original post tell his wife the truth so there wont be problems down the line when the box needs a couple grand. I apologize for the hard to understand post. I get hot under the collar reading that these cars dont cost money, they do because they are old not because they are Porsche. My Pristine near perfect 1980 280zx just gave me a 7500 dollar kiss from replacing wear items from being old. I think I have had a couple maintenance free Porsche years and some real dooozies as well.The most important thing is his WIFE said BUDGET of 7k. Someone needs to tell here that gets you in the game but he might want a burger and a beer so can he have 40$ more?( I just heard beers are 15 dollars at the Jags game) Cheers! Remember ..... wife and budget
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