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The quality of mine is as good as the factory oem.
That's arguable. If there's one thing I've learned from these forums is that, unless you're doing some modding, if it's connected to the engine, it's OEM only.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2018, 11:40 AM
			
			
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				The quality of mine is as good as the factory oem. 
 
That's arguable. If there's one thing I've learned from these forums is that, unless you're doing some modding, if it's connected to the engine, it's OEM only. 
			
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Nah, not worth arguing about.
 
You're entitled to your opinion and you can spend your money any way you like.  I've learned from forums and email lists over about 30 years that it ain't necessarily so.  If someone says something once, it tends to be a self fulfilling prophesy and a replicating rumor.  Some one, some where had an aftermarket tank leak, OEM tanks leak, that's why we replace them.  And maybe the brand new tank was mishandled on its way to the customer
 
I'll cite an example of self sustaining rumors,  30 or so years ago, a squid was throwing his rice rocket motorcycle around at a track day.  His Fram oil filter let go and spewed oil all over a pit area.  Ever since, Frams have had a bad rep.  and have been a no-no.  This despite the fact that some of the Fram stuff is very good--I use XG5 series in my Porsche--spin on.  I bought them in bulk and paid about $3.50 each.  Frams ain't no good, I know.  I'll keep an eye on them.  Just like I would with Bosch.    http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilter/gradesheet.htm
OR,  that Wix and Napa Gold are the best filter on the market.  I don't think so, but whatever!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2018, 12:38 PM
			
			
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				Nah, not worth arguing about. 
You're entitled to your opinion and you can spend your money any way you like.  I've learned from forums and email lists over about 30 years that it ain't necessarily so.  If someone says something once, it tends to be a self fulfilling prophesy and a replicating rumor.  Some one, some where had an aftermarket tank leak, OEM tanks leak, that's why we replace them.  And maybe the brand new tank was mishandled on its way to the customer
 
I'll cite an example of self sustaining rumors,  30 or so years ago, a squid was throwing his rice rocket motorcycle around at a track day.  His Fram oil filter let go and spewed oil all over a pit area.  Ever since, Frams have had a bad rep.  and have been a no-no.  This despite the fact that some of the Fram stuff is very good--I use XG5 series in my Porsche--spin on.  I bought them in bulk and paid about $3.50 each.  Frams ain't no good, I know.  I'll keep an eye on them.  Just like I would with Bosch.    Untitled Document
OR,  that Wix and Napa Gold are the best filter on the market.  I don't think so, but whatever!  
			
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Oh. I'm not arguing. However, I read at least 8 hours a day and, unknown to my wife, 3 of those are reading all about the tasks I have lined up for my 98. WP. LTT. Plugs. Coils. Coolant tank. AOS. And, from a variety of sources. I won't buy a toothbrush without first scouting the web, and Amazon. So, I didn't make the choice to go with OEM parts lightly, as I enjoy saving quid as much as the next guy. It simply isn't worth the $100-$200 headache if the part fails because of poor quality. That said...
 
I've been using FRAM filters for decades, despite a rice burner not tightening his filter sufficiently. Threw in some K&H... Purolator... etc... yet always finding myself returning to the FRAM.
 
In spite of all that... I would be interested in knowing just how the tank works out for you. If it's not leaking after 3 years... I'm in. I'll use that $200 elsewhere. Don't tell my wife.
 
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			04-12-2018, 08:44 AM
			
			
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				Oh. I'm not arguing. However, I read at least 8 hours a day and, unknown to my wife, 3 of those are reading all about the tasks I have lined up for my 98. WP. LTT. Plugs. Coils. Coolant tank. AOS. And, from a variety of sources. I won't buy a toothbrush without first scouting the web, and Amazon. So, I didn't make the choice to go with OEM parts lightly, as I enjoy saving quid as much as the next guy. It simply isn't worth the $100-$200 headache if the part fails because of poor quality. That said... 
I've been using FRAM filters for decades, despite a rice burner not tightening his filter sufficiently. Threw in some K&H... Purolator... etc... yet always finding myself returning to the FRAM.
 
In spite of all that... I would be interested in knowing just how the tank works out for you. If it's not leaking after 3 years... I'm in. I'll use that $200 elsewhere. Don't tell my wife.
 
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			Well - I DID IT  
Not too bad - went in from trunk and top of engine. 
I only put back around 3 gals - so I don't think I emptied the whole system. Probably because Car was on ramps -so low at front. Used the Swaben vacum/purge kit to refill and all seems good. 
I think this part was designed on a Friday afternoon during Cannstatter Volksfest (big Stuttgart beer festival).
 
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			04-11-2018, 06:24 PM
			
			
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				 ... If someone says something once, it tends to be a self fulfilling prophesy and a replicating rumor.  Some one, some where had an aftermarket tank leak, OEM tanks leak, that's why we replace them.  And maybe the brand new tank was mishandled on its way to the customer 
			
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Most of the failures that I have read or heard about with the off brand tanks were early on after installation; blocked tubes, misaligned welds, or quickly developing leaks. Nothing that would take a year or two to find out about.
 
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				... His Fram oil filter let go and spewed oil all over a pit area.  Ever since, Frams have had a bad rep.  and have been a no-no. 
			
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The problem with Fram is that the "Orange Wall of Death" is a catchy phrase. People like to repeat it. I wonder if it was first coined by a marketer from a competitor?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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