04-19-2015, 03:07 PM
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Guys, can we not have a difference of opinion without it getting personal and nasty? Armchair mechanics (myself included) will be the death of us all! Having said that, when I offer advice it it generally because I have first hand experience, not because I read something on the internet. Know what I mean?
I am very certain that the problem here will not be the rotors, but the suggestion to wait and see what the OP finds is obviously the most reasonable and sensible thing to do. I will be the first to apologize if I am wrong but truthfully, I'd like a piece of that $100 action that Timco proposed. I could use the cash!
Kram, when I said you were wrong it was not because what you propose could not possibly ever happen, only that it is highly highly unlikely to happen except in the most rare of circumstances and would definitley need contributing factors, such as improper installation, in order for it to happen. It's about as likely as getting hit by a meteorite on your way home from work. If you had actually ever done a brake job on your car I don't think you would be so vociferously defending your theory. There are several much more likely reasons for the fault.
Unlikely things DO happen. I blew out one of my clutch lines because a small shard of granite got wedged between the line and the body and sawed its way through the line from vibration over time . What were the chances of that happening? Now, if someone else told me they blew a clutch line, I would not immediately insist that it must have been because of a piece of rock getting stuck in there, at least not until I had a look at the car in question.
So, how about we wait and see and maybe even learn?
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04-19-2015, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark_T
Guys, can we not have a difference of opinion without it getting personal and nasty? Armchair mechanics (myself included) will be the death of us all! Having said that, when I offer advice it it generally because I have first hand experience, not because I read something on the internet. Know what I mean?:
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I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.
Don't pass me off as stupid.
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04-19-2015, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.
Don't pass me off as stupid. 
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Easy there pal - no offense intended. You'll notice I included myself in that category, and I too do virtually all of my own work. It was meant to differentiate us from the pro's, like JFP for instance. Would you have preferred the term "backyard mechanic"? "Amateur" perhaps? Maybe after you've actually done a brake job, (like the rest of us that have contributed to this thread) you'll have a little bit better idea of what you are talking about. I never said you were stupid, just mis-informed, and there's no shame in that.
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04-19-2015, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark_T
Easy there pal - no offense intended. You'll notice I included myself in that category, and I too do virtually all of my own work. It was meant to differentiate us from the pro's, like JFP for instance. Would you have preferred the term "backyard mechanic"? "Amateur" perhaps? Maybe after you've actually done a brake job, (like the rest of us that have contributed to this thread) you'll have a little bit better idea of what you are talking about. I never said you were stupid, just mis-informed, and there's no shame in that.
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Yeah backyard mechanic I am, not by trade, just enjoyment of knowing the job was done right and with care. I've watched several video's on changing 986 Boxster pads, has to be the easiest brake pad change I've ever seen. Like you said, to mess that up would be hard to do. When I had my winter tires installed I checked my rotors and I have about a 1/8" lip at the edge and it's very thin, like a knife, could cut your finger on it if you wanted to. What I read made sense to me at that time just from observing my own rotors.
I've been doing a lot of research on rotors and ceramic brake pads. Just haven't found a combo I like yet.
I did email ECS about what they have on their site and pointed them to this thread. Will be interesting to see their reply.
Anyways, I'm good. Love to learn.
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04-19-2015, 08:41 PM
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Brake Pads
This is a downhill topic like oil changes, but I have EBC Red Stuff on my Porsche now and for many years on my E36, work great and seem to last forever
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04-19-2015, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pdwight
This is a downhill topic like oil changes, but I have EBC Red Stuff on my Porsche now and for many years on my E36, work great and seem to last forever
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I've looked at those, price is decent on them and would look slick with my red calipers.
This set here just keep calling my name though.
7798-D917KT - Front & Rear Cool Carbon S/T Performance Brake Pad Set - ES#2804502
Also for you guys in the know how. Do the Brake Pad Damping Plates need to be replaced when I change the rotors and brake pads? Never saw them replaced in the videos I have watched.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Porsche-2003-Boxster-986-Roadster_S-Convertible-H6_3.2L/Braking/Pads/ES1485481/
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04-20-2015, 04:25 AM
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I am my own mechanic....
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
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Fronts have a large rectangular plate with two posts on each plate. Two per caliper. Those fit into the pistons of the caliper. DO NOT tear the dust boot. Pop those out, get everyone else's glue / pad grease out of there and go from there.
Rears have a round disc in each piston, so four per caliper. No need to change any of them unless damaged, but likely not.
Go ceramic. Almost zero brake dust, super quiet, rotor wears super slowly.
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04-20-2015, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
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On mine (2000 S) I reused the front shims, I took them out and cleaned them with brake cleaner, and then put a little anti-squeal on the backs and put them.back in. When I went to do the backs the shims were missing. I did not get new ones and all is well. There is a really good tutorial on boxsterregister.org on brakes, probably the most comprehensive I have ever seen.
I use ebc redstuff too, quiet on the street, low dust, and handles track and autocross well. The red looks good right up until you drive then it gets covered in dust and grime
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04-21-2015, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAM36
I'm not an "armchair mechanic", nobody puts a wrench to my Boxster except me. Before I do anything, I research what I'm getting ready to do and it soaks into my brain. I'm in the market for a new set of brake pads and rotors as my mods have put the performance of my car to a level that the factory brakes are not good enough for me, the rotor cutting through the wire was not of concern to me as I'm buying rotors too, however what I read stuck in my mind.
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the problem is you often refuse to listen to what others are saying,
Case in point, your thread on changing the spoiler deployment speed and how it effects the aerodynamics of the car, MPG and drag, etc
Stop being so argumentative with everyone. If you ask for opinions, don't just argue with everyone who disagrees with you. Accept other opinions for what they are. Remember everyone has an opinion and they are like a-holes, some are smelly and stinky
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