03-31-2015, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
Why yes is goes into 1st gear after going into 2nd, even on the roll, no stop needed.
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Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.
[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.
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03-31-2015, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cfos
Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.
[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.
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Correct, in auto mode the car starts out in 2nd gear. To get into 1st gear you need to use manual mode.
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03-31-2015, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
Correct, in auto mode the car starts out in 2nd gear. To get into 1st gear you need to use manual mode.
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But, in 1st (which I didn't spend more than 3-6 seconds in so I can't compare), in manual mode - did/do you appreciate any noticeable difference in performance? On the low end of the RPM spectrum, I don't know that I appreciated any difference - as compared to downshifting and exerting more control in the other gears. In autocrossing, etc., is there a performance difference in 1st? Though I may be... sarcastic in most of my posting, I'm attempting a serious question, so please do answer. My current 981 *pdk* goes back to 1st - even in auto mode. Pretty sure my 997.2S, also pdk, went back to 1st in auto mode.
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03-31-2015, 04:15 PM
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But, in 1st (which I didn't spend more than 3-6 seconds in so I can't compare), in manual mode - did/do you appreciate any noticeable difference in performance? On the low end of the RPM spectrum, I don't know that I appreciated any difference - as compared to downshifting and exerting more control in the other gears. In autocrossing, etc., is there a performance difference in 1st? Though I may be... sarcastic in most of my posting, I'm attempting a serious question, so please do answer. My current 981 *pdk* goes back to 1st - even in auto mode. Pretty sure my 997.2S, also pdk, went back to 1st in auto mode.
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With the Tiptronic, yes 1st is much faster off the line. The bad thing is Porsche geared 1st so low when you hit 2nd gear the RPM drop is not optimal in my eyes, hence me saying Porsche must have thought we are pulling out tree stumps with 1st gear.
PDK I have no idea, I've never driven one. All I know is it's much better then the Tiptronic.
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03-31-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KRAM36
With the Tiptronic, yes 1st is much faster off the line. The bad thing is Porsche geared 1st so tall when you hit 2nd gear the RPM drop is not optimal in my eyes, hence me saying Porsche must have thought we are pulling out tree stumps with 1st gear.
PDK I have no idea, I've never driven one. All I know is it's much better then the Tiptronic.
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I guess the few times I did manual mode with the tip, I shifted to 2nd quicker and didn't ride out the peak. Hence, I didn't experience much difference in 1st/2nd. Interesting - thanks for the reply.
I can't comment much on the pdk, as I mostly drive in auto (and in 2 years of 981 ownership, am and at 4000 miles) and don't push it as much as the avid enthusiast. When I had the 911s, that car had significantly more power than the 987, so I didn't feel much need to push that one either. Maybe when the kids are older and off doing Jake-like things... I'll consider it with the 981 :ah:
[edit] strike that last comment. When I was Jake's age, I had jobs. My kids will too. And 20s be expensive!
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03-31-2015, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cfos
Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.
[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.
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The 986, even in auto, will take first. It starts in second, but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!
Rolling with a manual 6 speed now, first seems longer in the 6 speed.
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03-31-2015, 04:30 PM
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... but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!
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Yeah, I guess I never tried this one.
Some say, that would be do to age and experience. But people older than me still do questionable things... right Mr. Clarkson?
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03-31-2015, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cfos
Yeah, I guess I never tried this one.
Some say, that would be do to age and experience. But people older than me still do questionable things... right Mr. Clarkson? 
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*due not do.
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03-31-2015, 05:01 PM
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*due not do.
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Yah! You are listening! And yes, I do make mistakes and sometimes I don't get to correcting, though I try. You'll understand if/when you have kids, and typing on the computer becomes the third or forth thing you do at once. And you develop a sense for the spoken/written word. But I digress. I did err.
It is a shame you still stated this, though. I wasn't going to comment, but since you are paying attention, this is really not a proper sentence. Minimally, I'd suggest you have two independent clauses and could benefit from a ";":
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Rolling with a manual 6 speed now, first seems longer in the 6 speed.
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Also, you seem to have fallen in love with the comma. Now, should you progress to understand the Oxford comma, I won't be sad. But, you do use it too much in your posts. Sure, I get that Bill Shatner gets away with speaking like you type, but BigJake, "I served with Bill Shatner. I knew Bill Shatner. Bill Shatner was a friend of mine. You are no Bill Shatner."
In addition, I do have to say, I was a little dumbfounded by this post:
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I was gawking at the p1, and realized, its rear fascia fits and would look interesting on the rear of a 986. I then took to photoshop.
I present to you. The McLaren/Porsche 250S
Point of the thread is, what sort of frankenboxster can you create!
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I'm not following the rationale of your comma usage here. Also, "I then took to photoshop.", while dramatic doesn't really follow. There is too much filler one needs to apply. But, let's say you are trying to be colloquial. Fine. Let it be. But, "I present to you." really is an awkward sentence. I do think you mean to use an ellipsis... which I am partial to. And, your last sentence - again, I get it if you are trying to be colloquial - you could use better phrasing. I'd suggest: "So, the point of this thread is - Show me your frankenboxster!" Personally, I'd accent it with a Cuba Gooding meme from Jerry Maguire, but I like to reference.
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03-31-2015, 05:41 PM
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Hi Boss,
At some point in your life, you or someone you know has probably taken a sleeping pill. Perhaps it was an OTC sleep aid or maybe you even have a prescription for something more potent. But according to new research, released by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, those prescription meds may be more dangerous than you think.
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03-31-2015, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MarveenChad22
At some point in your life, you or someone you know has probably taken a sleeping pill. Perhaps it was an OTC sleep aid or maybe you even have a prescription for something more potent. But according to new research, released by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, those prescription meds may be more dangerous than you think.
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Interesting 1st post. Sure, it is likely a bot - and I hate to stray from the topic, but this is something that bothers me. I get the opening sentence is an appeal. Fine. I think we can all agree to this general statement. But, OTC sleep aids are a different class of drugs than Rx - and because of this, the third statement is a bait and switch. Also, there is no condition whereby we are made to think that prescription drugs would be safe as OTC. There are different rules governing availability of product (and ID is often required for several OTCs...). Anyway... As my discussion with Jake was fun, albeit, stupid, here Jake, if you are still reading... is adequate sentence structure. However, if you were to diagram this "argument" symbolically, it would be a fallacy or invalid. I think they are going for a conditional statement or proof (or somehow trying to imply a modus ponens) but it doesn't follow. So, the "lesson" here, Jake, is don't just use proper written language - you still need to make sense. Also, don't let your lady friend bark your tires - that's common sense... especially if she hasn't learned stick, yet.
[edit] Well, after trying to view Marveen's address, there is something that is Porsche related: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.739956,-74.007174,3a,75y,104.31h,77.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv6bKXBu5qhI8lxtUhPMdOA!2e0
Hey! Marveen! That's not a Boxster in the Street view! You should try 6speedonline! I'd suggest the 1st gen 997 forum.
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04-01-2015, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
The 986, even in auto, will take first. It starts in second, but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!
Rolling with a manual 6 speed now, first seems longer in the 6 speed.
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Glad you mentioned this Jake. I think that one should check the torque on those cv bolts periodically. During my winter maintenance I noticed some grease splattering around one of the cv joints. I found that the 6 bolts had backed off so much that I could turn them by hand!  Catastrophe avoided!!
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