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KRAM36 · 03-31-2015, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NewArt

Mine's a tip = not a chance!

Seriously? Mines a Tip and she turn the tires from a stop. I think Porsche thought we were going to be pulling tree stumps with the 1st in this car, like putting a truck in granny gear.

NewArt · 03-31-2015, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36

Seriously? Mines a Tip and she turn the tires from a stop. I think Porsche thought we were going to be pulling tree stumps with the 1st in this car, like putting a truck in granny gear.

Well, I obviously haven't been trying hard enough!

Devact · 03-31-2015, 07:38 AM

Once, not really on purpose. I pulled out of a parking lot with a blind turn just before in the lane I was turning into when a truck barreled up on me around the turn. I had to get the hell out of the way FAST, with no shoulder or anything. Chirped on the 1-2 shift.

cfos · 03-31-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36

Seriously? Mines a Tip and she turn the tires from a stop. I think Porsche thought we were going to be pulling tree stumps with the 1st in this car, like putting a truck in granny gear.

Wait... you mean your tip goes back to... 1st? Huh.

When I had tip in my 2006 987, once I hit 2nd, I stayed in second until I turned the car off and started it again. Do you downshift at a stop just to get back to 1st? Granted, I am no Chet Haze, so "barking" tires and "pulling tree stumps" is lost on me, but I do know that all the tips I've seen from 2006 and earlier didn't go back to 1st, after having reached 2nd. Even from the stop. Dawg. Is it a 987 thang, yo?

KRAM36 · 03-31-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cfos

Wait... you mean your tip goes back to... 1st? Huh.

When I had tip in my 2005 987, once I hit 2nd, I stayed in second until I turned the car off and started it again. Do you downshift at a stop just to get back to 1st? Granted, I am no Chet Haze, so "barking" tires and "pulling tree stumps" is lost on me, but I do know that all the tips I've seen from 2005 and earlier didn't go back to 1st, after having reached 2nd. Even from the stop. Dawg.

Why yes is goes into 1st gear after going into 2nd, even on the roll, no stop needed.

cfos · 03-31-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36

Why yes is goes into 1st gear after going into 2nd, even on the roll, no stop needed.

Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.

[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.

KRAM36 · 03-31-2015, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cfos

Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.

[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.

Correct, in auto mode the car starts out in 2nd gear. To get into 1st gear you need to use manual mode.

cfos · 03-31-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36

Correct, in auto mode the car starts out in 2nd gear. To get into 1st gear you need to use manual mode.

But, in 1st (which I didn't spend more than 3-6 seconds in so I can't compare), in manual mode - did/do you appreciate any noticeable difference in performance? On the low end of the RPM spectrum, I don't know that I appreciated any difference - as compared to downshifting and exerting more control in the other gears. In autocrossing, etc., is there a performance difference in 1st? Though I may be... sarcastic in most of my posting, I'm attempting a serious question, so please do answer. My current 981 *pdk* goes back to 1st - even in auto mode. Pretty sure my 997.2S, also pdk, went back to 1st in auto mode.

KRAM36 · 03-31-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cfos

But, in 1st (which I didn't spend more than 3-6 seconds in so I can't compare), in manual mode - did/do you appreciate any noticeable difference in performance? On the low end of the RPM spectrum, I don't know that I appreciated any difference - as compared to downshifting and exerting more control in the other gears. In autocrossing, etc., is there a performance difference in 1st? Though I may be... sarcastic in most of my posting, I'm attempting a serious question, so please do answer. My current 981 *pdk* goes back to 1st - even in auto mode. Pretty sure my 997.2S, also pdk, went back to 1st in auto mode.

With the Tiptronic, yes 1st is much faster off the line. The bad thing is Porsche geared 1st so low when you hit 2nd gear the RPM drop is not optimal in my eyes, hence me saying Porsche must have thought we are pulling out tree stumps with 1st gear.

PDK I have no idea, I've never driven one. All I know is it's much better then the Tiptronic.

BIGJake111 · 03-31-2015, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cfos

Huh. So why did Porsche do that with the 987 tip? I never understood that. I mean 1st just seemed so useless, if you were going to start in 2nd, after having reached 2nd.

[edit] Aha! I was driving in "auto mode" most of the time - that seems to explain why I started in 2nd. And, to get back to topic, after google searching - no, I haven't squealed, barked, etc. the tires in most of the cars I've owned. Just not my thing.

The 986, even in auto, will take first. It starts in second, but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!
Rolling with a manual 6 speed now, first seems longer in the 6 speed.

cfos · 03-31-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111

... but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!

Yeah, I guess I never tried this one.

Some say, that would be do to age and experience. But people older than me still do questionable things... right Mr. Clarkson?

BIGJake111 · 03-31-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cfos

Yeah, I guess I never tried this one.

Some say, that would be do to age and experience. But people older than me still do questionable things... right Mr. Clarkson?

*due not do.

NewArt · 04-01-2015, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111

The 986, even in auto, will take first. It starts in second, but if you quickly let off the brake and stab the throttle, the car will downshift to first before sending you off the line. It is much more visceral than your usual 2nd gear pull away, so much so that once it sheered two bolts on my cv joint!
Rolling with a manual 6 speed now, first seems longer in the 6 speed.

Glad you mentioned this Jake. I think that one should check the torque on those cv bolts periodically. During my winter maintenance I noticed some grease splattering around one of the cv joints. I found that the 6 bolts had backed off so much that I could turn them by hand!

Catastrophe avoided!!