Certified Porsche - What does it really mean?

[wetstuff]

I calculated the premium my local P-dealer wanted was really closer to $8-10K for a certifited car with more mileage and frewer options. I bought a car with three months of factory warranty from a Chevy dealer.

...THEN - I took it to my P-dealer and has them do the 'certified' inspection for, like $175. Passed.

...THEN - I went and bought an external warranty. (noted above)

Given the cars I saw at the P-dealer were really nothing special in condtion or options, I'd sooner - if I felt insecure in my lack of knowledge/resources - have someone like our host find me a car in the colors with options I wanted.

Jim

[mjw930]

From the Porsche Website: (See attached file for their brochure)

From what I understand the dealer cost for the extended warranty is ~$1500 on a Boxster. Compare that to what you get with an outside warranty company but remember, the Porsche warranty is $0 deductable and comes with roadside assistance.

What distinguishes a vehicle from the Porsche Approved Pre-owned Car Program from a conventional pre-owned vehicle?

* We check each vehicle using a 100-item checklist
* Repairs are carried out in line with the strict Porsche quality criteria
* You are given a 1-year guarantee which is valid around the world
* You benefit from the Porsche Assistance mobility guarantee

What can you expect?
Driving pleasure, quality, safety and stability of value. In short: A Porsche which really cannot be described as a pre-owned vehicle. Rather, as a thoroughbred sports car the charm of which was once tasted by another driver.

[Mr. Boone]

I bought my 2002 S from a private party and I paid right at Kelly blue book for it for a private party sale, so I don't think I paid too much for it. Like I was saying one of the main reasons I selected this car was because of the CPO extended warrantee. The seller told me he paid quite a premium for it when he bought the car from a Porsche dealership here in LA. I found this valuable to protect me from catastrophic failures and I feel it will do that. The good news is it is fully transferable. There is no paperwork involved with transference, as like stated before, this CPO warrantee is attached to the VIN and comes up in the dealers computer as soon as they check in the car. That's kinda cool cause "Bonzo" the seller, as we will affectionately call him from now on, could produce absolutely no paperwork substantiating his claim of said extended warrantee. I had to call up the dealership to verify his claim and within minutes, the service rep gave me the good news. This verification would have come up on any Porsche dealers computer. I am actually still under the factory warrantee for one more year, but judging from my experience with warrantee issues covered by factory, I am expecting some fiarly significant resistance when it comes to CPO warrantee issues. Nowhere near has my experience with Porsche been as satisfying as Randall’s rendition of how Lexus treated him. The worst part I am also re-stating is I just can't seem to get a straight answer on what will be covered and what will not be covered once my factory warrantee runs out. One thing for sure is that I will put up a hell of a fight if they try to reneg on something that really should be covered. Randall - Ill look forward to your post RE your covert Op.

[Brucelee]

Several comments on the above posts.

The dealer pays Porsche $1500 for the actual insurance part of the warranty.

The dealer also has to incur the cost of inspection and for certain costs associated with bringing the car up to "spec" per Porsche requirements.

Now, after paying those costs, the dealer will charge you whatever they can for this warranty. As you know, the dealer is usually trying to charge above KBB retail for the car.

Now, my major beef is back to the issue of,

WHAT IS MY EXTENDED WARRANTY GOING TO COVER?

For me, that would have to be in writing or I would NEVER buy the car.

I will be very interested in Randalls experience.

[Mr. Boone]

I have an appointment with a local dealer for next Wednesday to have my oxidizing windscreen trim replaced under factory warrantee. I will ask them to provide me with a copy of the CPO warrantee details as well. I will post the results.

[tonyg]

Originally Posted by Mr. Boone

I have an appointment with a local dealer for next Wednesday to have my oxidizing windscreen trim replaced under factory warrantee. I will ask them to provide me with a copy of the CPO warrantee details as well. I will post the results.

When I asked my dealer to provide me with the CPO warrantee he printed out the Porsche N.A. Database screen using my VIN number as a reference - which included the 1. original delivery date 2. an entee indicating that the CPO had been issued 3. the MSRP and 4. effective dates of the original and CPO warrantee. He told me that the CPO warrantee was an extention of the orginal warrantee and the coverage remained the same throught the limit of 6 yrs/100,000 miles. There wasn't a copy of the CPO available - I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

[Brucelee]

"He told me that the CPO warrantee was an extention of the orginal warrantee and the coverage remained the same throught the limit of 6 yrs/100,000 miles"

It would be interesing to ask this same dealer to put that in writing on Dealership Stationary. It would also be interesting to write to Porsche NA and get them to put that in writing.

Then, with the warranty booklet that came with the car, you would actually have this down in black and white.



PS-I have not heard the same story from my service dept at the local dealership.

I will ask again on Monday.

[Mr. Boone]

Originally Posted by tonyg

When I asked my dealer to provide me with the CPO warrantee he printed out the Porsche N.A. Database screen using my VIN number as a reference - which included the 1. original delivery date 2. an entee indicating that the CPO had been issued 3. the MSRP and 4. effective dates of the original and CPO warrantee. He told me that the CPO warrantee was an extention of the orginal warrantee and the coverage remained the same throught the limit of 6 yrs/100,000 miles. There wasn't a copy of the CPO available - I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Interesting your dealer would say it provided the same coverage as the Factory warrantee, as my dealer said it WOULD NOT provide the same coverage when I asked him this point blank. Again he could not tell me what items were going to drop off of the coverage. - Again I will ask dealer #2 on Wednesday for the written coverage and see what happens.