What was "lost" from the 986?

[JackG]

Originally Posted by ppbon

Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

Sorry for the hijack, but what are those two things in the foam? Boat transom plugs?

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by JackG

Sorry for the hijack, but what are those two things in the foam? Boat transom plugs?

spare bleed valves

Cheers!

[Lil bastard]

I'm older so to my experience a Sports Car is a very specific and narrowly defined thing. Thats what Sports Cars were when I became driving age and that's what I always think of when someone says Sports Car.

This usually meant balance, lightness, handling and braking over power. It also usually meant a minimum of creature comforts - the comfort was in the driving, not the cupholders, stereo, traction control and digital doowhackys.

It also meant that it wasn't created for, or marketed to, everybody. It was a daily driver for only the most Hard Core. Taking an Infinity GXX and rebadging it a 350Z 'Sports Car' is exactly the opposite of what a Sports Car used to mean.

In this light, the 986 is much closer to it's original vision than the 987 will ever be.

I could buy any Boxster on the market, but the only ones I'd ever own would be the 1st Gen 986.

Good thing for Porsche that not everyone shares my view.

Cheers!

[ekam]

Originally Posted by Lil bastard

I'm older so to my experience a Sports Car is a very specific and narrowly defined thing. Thats what Sports Cars were when I became driving age and that's what I always think of when someone says Sports Car.

This usually meant balance, lightness, handling and braking over power. It also usually meant a minimum of creature comforts - the comfort was in the driving, not the cupholders, stereo, traction control and digital doowhackys.

It also meant that it wasn't created for, or marketed to, everybody. It was a daily driver for only the most Hard Core. Taking an Infinity GXX and rebadging it a 350Z 'Sports Car' is exactly the opposite of what a Sports Car used to mean.

In this light, the 986 is much closer to it's original vision than the 987 will ever be.

I could buy any Boxster on the market, but the only ones I'd ever own would be the 1st Gen 986.

Good thing for Porsche that not everyone shares my view.

Cheers!

Well people are getting dumber these days, they have to look at the TPMS to check tire pressure as supposed to the original method. They also need a computer to tell them when they need oil change.

I work in IT and even I hate all these computer crap overtaking cars!

Sorry my friend has a Superformance Cobra, no computers, no stability control, no airbags. You can put your arms over the door (you cannot do this anymore on modern cars because of increased safety). You need to learn how to drive it because there's no computer to safe your life.

For the same reason I kind of want a 356 Speedster, but my friends told me I already got a great car and should stop dreaming.

[eightsandaces]

Ekam, You certainly have a nice car, sometimes we lose our perspective and gratitude. After all, many people will only dream their entire life of driving a Porsche at all.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by ekam

Well people are getting dumber these days, they have to look at the TPMS to check tire pressure as supposed to the original method. They also need a computer to tell them when they need oil change.

I work in IT and even I hate all these computer crap overtaking cars!

Sorry my friend has a Superformance Cobra, no computers, no stability control, no airbags. You can put your arms over the door (you cannot do this anymore on modern cars because of increased safety). You need to learn how to drive it because there's no computer to safe your life.

For the same reason I kind of want a 356 Speedster, but my friends told me I already got a great car and should stop dreaming.

I've had the pleasure of driving a 356. It's a fantastic car if you're into the unfiltered driving experience. Driving a Boxster is like trying to read braile with gloves on compared to the 356 and the old 911s that I love. I still own the 30 year old Rx-7 that I learned to drive in because I haven't found a car that's more fun to drive.

I'm like lil and you, I have no interest in refinement, options or luxuries in my sports cars.

[stephen wilson]

I have only put 1,000 miles on my 06, and it still freaks me out when the stability control kicks in. When I'm fully comfortable with the car, I expect to take my "sprited" drives with it turned off. I have a '65 Mustang for my back-to-basics driving. If I ever finish it!

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by stephen wilson

I have only put 1,000 miles on my 06, and it still freaks me out when the stability control kicks in. When I'm fully comfortable with the car, I expect to take my "sprited" drives with it turned off. I have a '65 Mustang for my back-to-basics driving. If I ever finish it!

You can turn off the PSM (Porsche Stability Management, a.k.a. Please Save Me) but it will kick back in automatically when specific thresholds are meet and exceeded (like wheel spin, braking, car spin, and etc.).

[ppbon]

... they are boat transom plugs which I use for completely silencing my PSE (Pedro Sport Exhaust) hack by forcing the exhaust through the OEM muffler.



Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by ppbon

... they are boat transom plugs which I use for completely silencing my PSE (Pedro Sport Exhaust) hack by forcing the exhaust through the OEM muffler.



Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

OK... that's a new one on me. It's a good day whenever you learn something new. Today was a good day!

Cheers!

[ehanauer]

I updated from a base 1999 986 to a base 2006 987 for lots of reasons.

40 more horsepower. I'm no longer embarrassed when stepping on the accelerator in 5th gear.

Sounds more like a Porsche.

Highly upgraded interior. The old one was too cheap and plasticky.

Glass rear window. No longer have to do the chop when lowering the top.

Creature comforts like homelink, rain sensing wipers, remote key for both trunks, a glovebox.

Cross drilled rotors.

I like the more aggressive look and the new headlights.

I could go on, but think I've made my point.

[PhilNotHill]

Having owned a 2004 Boxster S and a brand new 2011 Boxster S I can say the new one is definitely better bcus:

40 more bhp and more torque. more fun to drive. great road feel.
the 6 speed is smoother, better. a true joy. best stick ever.
the digital speedo is much better located as are all the readout. the dash is much improved.
Lots more toys-
Computer standard
tire pressure monitor
xenon lights that turn
ventillated seats
power seats with memory
Sports Exhaust awesome.
Navigation has altitude feature. great in the mountains.
bluetooth
XM radio built in rather than an add-on
the LED lights look good
self-dimming mirrors
rain sensitive wipers

only downside is no spare

all this for $7k more in 10 years. Not bad.

Life is good.