Softronic upgrade,. - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

flmont · 03-14-2019, 09:26 PM

Has anyone tried this upgrade on a 02' 2.7 ltr,..thanks frank

flmont · 03-26-2019, 05:25 PM

anyone,..No one..?? so it must be bogus,.??

KRAM36 · 03-31-2019, 01:56 PM

I looked at the Softronic. It's kind of expensive IMO. I did call them and talked to the guy that does the tunes, he was very respectful and didn't try to get off the phone with me or act like I was taking up his time. I am going to call him back as I have another question. The kit uses a Durametric tool to apply the tune and I now have the Durametric tool. So I am wondering if I could just get the tune from him and use my Durametric tool to apply the tune and save some money on the cost.

NewArt · 03-31-2019, 04:38 PM

Durametric says that their software can’t be used to code. I think that there may be variations made specifically for companies like Softronic to upload codes. I may be totally wrong about this.

jsceash · 03-31-2019, 05:12 PM

Softronic's sends you a loader that connects the ECU through the Durametrics cable to their website. So the Durametrics cable and software is not used to program, it only is a communications device.

I have a Softronics Flash but it is not for a 2.7. It is the 2004 Aniversary editions with compression change, 987 Intake, exhaust mods, larger cylinders. I'm not sure I would spend the money on a Flash on a 2.7. I flashed mine to get the most out of a total engine mod. I am satisfied with the outcome.

KRAM36 · 03-31-2019, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jsceash

Softronic's sends you a loader that connects the ECU through the Durametrics cable to their website. So the Durametrics cable and software is not used to program, it only is a communications device.

I have a Softronics Flash but it is not for a 2.7. It is the 2004 Aniversary editions with compression change, 987 Intake, exhaust mods, larger cylinders. I'm not sure I would spend the money on a Flash on a 2.7. I flashed mine to get the most out of a total engine mod. I am satisfied with the outcome.

I understand that the Durametric software would not be used, but I don't see why my Durametric tool can't be used. That has to be a big part of the cost for the tune package. So I would think they could offer a tune package to people that already have a Durametric tool?

As you can see in my signature I have many mods done to my car, pretty much what you have, except for the larger cylinders. What do you think the tune they sent you did for you?

jsceash · 04-01-2019, 03:06 PM

I guess I see your point why get a Single serial number cable if you currently have a good enthusiast cable. I don't know how much they would take off if you didn't get the cable as part of the package.

After the motor was completed the second round 2014 I believe. I had a dyno done at the tuners near where I live after it was completed. 289 Ftlb torque and 322 Hp best of 3 runs

The first time I rebuilt the motor I did the 3.6 Nickies and the heads but did not replace any lifters only valves springs retainers and ground the surfaces. I started to notice lifters tapping at the end of the second season on track. I took it back apart replaced the heads with 2006 S heads with 11,000 original miles on them, Carrilo H beam rods, and all new seals and rings. It spins about 8 lb less weight. than OEM because of the rods, pistons, and Carrilo rods

moresquirt · 04-12-2019, 11:11 AM

I have a 06 Boxster with the 3.2 totally stock and installed the tune from
Softronic and really like it.Have had it all last summer maybe 6000k and no issues so far.I definitely noticed the car had more snap, crisper cleaner throttle response and the sound of the motor is angrier and slightly louder when on the throttle hard, sounds amazing !
I cant comment on the advertised increase of HP or Torque numbers as I have not and will never do a dyno to know but theres definitely a seat of the pants increase and the car is just more enjoyable to drive now.I definitely would do it again.I dont track the car and never will but its a lot more fun as a daily driver in the summer.I did find it pretty complicated to install and had to keep calling Softronic and he eventually found there was a glitch in the something that wouldn't let me install. They finally got it to take and its been all good since then. I was pretty frustrated at the time if I recall and was considering sending it back.But everything worked out in the end, glad I stuck it out!

thstone · 04-14-2019, 08:02 PM

Most owners consider it to be fairly expensive for the small increase in power. As such, it's not a popular upgrade.

Ciao · 04-15-2019, 05:44 AM

I think a flash works better with an intake & exhaust upgrade rather than with stock

KRAM36 · 04-15-2019, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ciao

I think a flash works better with an intake & exhaust upgrade rather than with stock

But $900 for the Softronic tune? How much is that $900 going to gain you with these mods?

Ciao · 04-15-2019, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36

But $900 for the Softronic tune? How much is that $900 going to gain you with these mods?

Does not have to be Softronic; there are a variety of tunes in the market. All would be cost effective (depending how much one is willing to spend) with intake/exhaust upgrades

flmont · 04-15-2019, 04:52 PM

I would do a 987 Air box and plenum upgrade but only if its noticeable. Iam happy with the 2.7 But if I could do A LOT BETTER with a couple of mods I would consider it,..but Iam not wanting to change out Exhaust Etc if that is the only way,.I would just go with a bigger engine,.. I just want to do some quick easy Mods that work,.! Thanks Frank

KRAM36 · 04-15-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flmont

I would do a 987 Air box and plenum upgrade but only if its noticeable. Iam happy with the 2.7 But if I could do A LOT BETTER with a couple of mods I would consider it,..but Iam not wanting to change out Exhaust Etc if that is the only way,.I would just go with a bigger engine,.. I just want to do some quick easy Mods that work,.! Thanks Frank

Doing the 987 air box change is not a quick and easy job, however the payback in performance was worth every bit of time I spent doing it. I did that mod before I did the exhaust and it I was very impressed with the mod. Now that's with a 3.2 engine, not sure how much a 2.7 would gain.

thstone · 04-15-2019, 08:28 PM

10-15hp increase for the flash alone.

I got another 6-8 hp from a $300 catback muffler (and have the dyno tests to back it up) but only above 5000 rpm.

Any hp increase from intake mods (like air box) are debatable unless you go to a larger throttle body.

tommy583 · 04-17-2019, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thstone

10-15hp increase for the flash alone.

I got another 6-8 hp from a $300 catback muffler (and have the dyno tests to back it up) but only above 5000 rpm.

Any hp increase from intake mods (like air box) are debatable unless you go to a larger throttle body.

Is this on a 2.5? I haven't changed the air box, but i did install the larger throttle body from a 996. I'd consider doing headers and hi flow or no cats. I have an indy with the Porsche scan tool that can code ROW or any other tune the car will take. He is also a Softonic installer. Hmmmm.

BrokenLinkage · 04-17-2019, 08:12 AM

My indie was gonna push a ROW tune for me recently, but the dealer could not be persuaded to release the DME programming codes, even when I personally approached the service mgr directly with car title in-hand, first citing liability concerns and then bluntly stating that they wanted to protect their profits so why should they release the codes if they don't have to, since it was just giving away business. I was pissed off, I own the entire car outright and feel I should be given full access to do whatever the hell I want with it. I now order my parts from the net.
PS apparently they feel key programming is enuf of a PIA and little enough profit that they WILL release these codes. Go figure.

jaykay · 04-18-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciao

I think a flash works better with an intake & exhaust upgrade rather than with stock

For a 3.2, my impressions are that this tune is geared to work with the stock intake and stock 68mm TB. It gives a nice snap crackle pop on the overrun if you have right exhaust set up (2nd cat delete + bypass)

It did not adapt well to a larger 997 diverter tee and 74mm TB.

KRAM36 · 04-18-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jaykay

For a 3.2, my impressions are that this tune is geared to work with the stock intake and stock 68mm TB. It gives a nice snap crackle pop on the overrun if you have right exhaust set up (2nd cat delete + bypass)

It did not adapt well to a larger 997 diverter tee and 74mm TB.

This was with a Softronic tune? I was under the impression when I talked to them, that the tune would take into account the mods you have as you tell them what mods you have done? Maybe I misunderstood the guy when I was talking to him?

flmont · 04-18-2019, 09:05 PM

Well KRAM36,.I guess I didn't really mean only quick and easy,the intake Mod I understand is not easy but that is more doable for me,Than say changing out the Cams, But if paying 900.00 for a softronic upgrade along with a Airbox/Intake system and I can gain 20/25 HP or better Torque numbers than that is worth it , Hell my 92' Subaru SVX engine( going in a 914) was rated at 230 HP and I think 230 Lbs of torque, but with new larger injectors and a ECU upgrade they claimed 260 plus the card is about 325.00 and what ever the injectors would cost and it was a proven 30-40 hp gain,..I sure wish that could be done on the 2.7 !