Indy shop cost to install LN IMS Bearing?

[mikefocke]

Why the flatbed it worry? Was there a noise or symptom that led you to believe that the car won't run for the few miles to a shop just as it has for its 60k+ miles? If there was, then by all means flatbed and don't turn it over. Critical to the success of any IMS replacement is making absolutely certain that there is no debris already floating around in the engine.

$4k is twice what I see people posting as labor costs. More common is ~$1k for a manual. More for a TIP as the whole engine/trans unit has to be removed and then replaced. Which might get you to $2k but certainly not $4k. What is his hourly labor rate?

And are you doing anything else while you are there? AOS, water pump, clutch, plugs/tubes/coil-packs, etc?

[Xpit77]

Mantis in Oakville was around $2200 plus tax etc. LN double row.

[pilut2]

The mileage is actually only about 40,000 or about 60,000 kms (I'm in Canada) . I drove her 900 miles from her former North Carolina home last August and she ran beautifully. The car is exceptionally clean and has been very well looked after. I called the Indy who services only Porsches, looking for advice about service strategy as the car is new to me. I was planning to drop by to meet the owner and have a look at his shop before i decided to have any work done there. I was a little surprised that his approach to the IMS replacement was to drop the engine. He wouldn't even give me a ballpark idea of the cost and listed all of the various potential issues that may need to be addressed while the engine was out. I will check out some other shops before make a decision. I'm not afraid to spend the money as I absolutely love the car and want to keep her for several years- I just don't want to be screwed. It is a summer weekend toy. I am inclined to just drive her until she needs a clutch and then do IMS, clutch and waterpump at the same time. I spoke to the original owner who had her for 15 years and then traded on a 2014 Boxster - he had never heard of the IMS issue. I have given it more thought in the 5 months that I have owned her than he gave in the last 15 years- ignorance is truly bliss!

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

Why the flatbed it worry? Was there a noise or symptom that led you to believe that the car won't run for the few miles to a shop just as it has for its 60k+ miles? If there was, then by all means flatbed and don't turn it over. Critical to the success of any IMS replacement is making absolutely certain that there is no debris already floating around in the engine.

$4k is twice what I see people posting as labor costs. More common is ~$1k for a manual. More for a TIP as the whole engine/trans unit has to be removed and then replaced. Which might get you to $2k but certainly not $4k. What is his hourly labor rate?

And are you doing anything else while you are there? AOS, water pump, clutch, plugs/tubes/coil-packs, etc?

How much does the Flat6Inovation DOF Retrofit kit cost?

Here is what he stated in email correspondence.

"Depends on which route you want to take. If you want to go with the standard
single row LN engineering bearing, (assuming replacing clutch and a few other
while in there items), it usually comes out in the $3000 range with the
tiptronic due to the extra labor of the tiptronic. If you want to go with the
IMS solution which utilizes an oil fed bushing system to replace the bearing,
that runs about $4000."

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

How much does the Flat6Inovation DOF Retrofit kit cost?

Here is what he stated in email correspondence.

"Depends on which route you want to take. If you want to go with the standard
single row LN engineering bearing, (assuming replacing clutch and a few other
while in there items), it usually comes out in the $3000 range with the
tiptronic due to the extra labor of the tiptronic. If you want to go with the
IMS solution which utilizes an oil fed bushing system to replace the bearing,
that runs about $4000."

IMS replacement parts alone for an IMS Solution refit are approaching $2k, without labor. $4K to do one on a Tip is a fair price.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

IMS replacement parts alone for an IMS Solution refit are approaching $2k, without labor. $4K to do one on a Tip is a fair price.

Thanks for the info JFP.

I have another question. The DOF refit system, can it me moved to another engine? My car has 115k miles on it. I'm not going to ever sell this car. So when this motor gives out I'll put another motor in it. If the DOF refit can be moved to the replacement motor I would consider having it done now. If it can't, I'll just wait til this engine gives up.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by KRAM36

Thanks for the info JFP.

I have another question. The DOF refit system, can it me moved to another engine? My car has 115k miles on it. I'm not going to ever sell this car. So when this motor gives out I'll put another motor in it. If the DOF refit can be moved to the replacement motor I would consider having it done now. If it can't, I'll just wait til this engine gives up.

First of all, stop referring to it as a DOF, that is a different product and I believe copyrighted name for that system. The oil fed LN system is the IMS Solution.

I really do not have answer for your question of moving an IMS Solution retrofit. I know you cannot move any of the LN ceramic bearings as the extraction process damages the bearing. Perhaps that question would best be directed at Jake Raby, but my hunch would be no.

[KRAM36]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

First of all, stop referring to it as a DOF, that is a different product and I believe copyrighted name for that system. The oil fed LN system is the IMS Solution.

I really do not have answer for your question of moving an IMS Solution retrofit. I know you cannot move any of the LN ceramic bearings as the extraction process damages the bearing. Perhaps that question would best be directed at Jake Raby, but my hunch would be no.

Ok, wont use DOF, that's Pedro's solution, was just trying to keep the post short. The only reason I'm thinking it could be moved to another engine as it has no moving parts.

Maybe Jake will comment on that and sorry Jake for using DOF when referring to your IMS Solution.

[Jamesp]

If someone offers to remove your engine to change the IMSB, don't back away from that deal, turn and run.