10-15-2014, 11:40 AM
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Norm,
You would have to pull the DRL relay to keep the headlights from firing up
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10-15-2014, 11:57 AM
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So in the case you have litronics, is this still a possible problem? Currently my lights look good but I would hate for this to become a problem.
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10-15-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve
Norm,
You would have to pull the DRL relay to keep the headlights from firing up
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So by just pulling the DRL module the car becomes a US car (as far as headlights go)?
Which means the headlights would only come on when the switch is actuated.
Now I just need to know how to do the fog light DRL hack... The detail given earlier in this thread is the hack to turn on the headlights for DRL in US cars.
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10-15-2014, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by clickman
I don't think option 4 is possible, as I believe Porsche only sells the headlight as a complete unit. And if you could, if you're going to the lengths of breaking apart the headlight to get at the burnt piece (been there, done that), it doesn't really make sense to put back in the poorly designed part.
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Norm, never told you but a few have been copying your painted reflector idea here. Two 996s in Shanghai and one 986 in Beijing. 3 cars so far. Same, very same lol
ps: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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10-15-2014, 11:19 PM
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OP, yes the design of the 9x6 headlight is flawed. They will yellow and eventually burn/crack.
You've already seen your options but if you just want to get rid of the burnt area, given they are not toasted, I bet you could simply sand them up with a 180 grit abrasive paper and polish them afterward. I've never done that, just an idea...
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10-16-2014, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Nine8Six
if you just want to get rid of the burnt area, given they are not toasted, I bet you could simply sand them up with a 180 grit abrasive paper and polish them afterward. I've never done that, just an idea...
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Mine were not only brown, they were cracked and bubbling as well. There's no saving this bad idea...
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10-16-2014, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nine8Six
Norm, never told you but a few have been copying your painted reflector idea here. Two 996s in Shanghai and one 986 in Beijing. 3 cars so far. Same, very same lol
ps: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Fred, as much as I like taking credit, the only difference between what I did and what Charles has been doing such a good job of is that I didn't paint the clear plastic piece in front of the reflector. Charles paints both, at least in the ones of his I've seen.
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10-16-2014, 07:59 AM
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Norm, impressive. I presume this is the result of running those Porsche headlamps "day & night" (CA's DRL)?
I've retrofitted little over 50 of those BOSCH headlamps, maybe more dunno, and I've never seen them that toasted lol Ouch! Here in most cases they are simply yellowed with, in most cases, a very small crack...
Regardless, I'll have to take my words back... once yellowed I don't think there is any coming back for those things.
(exterminate the halogens!)
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10-22-2014, 01:15 PM
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10-22-2014, 01:43 PM
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I have never used anything but stock output bulbs, and I still had the burning.
I installed Fred's projectors and killed three birds with one stone: got rid of cheap burned plastic, got the superior light output of the xenons, and hugely updated the look of the front end. In my case for under $400.
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Wait, who is this Fred guy, and where do I send my money??
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10-22-2014, 06:51 PM
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Fred is Nine8siSix on this board. He has a website posted in one of the links, but a PM to him will get the link.
There is documentation on how to open the lights. I might have a good lense cap in a few weeks for anyone that may want to open a set to just replace the lense cover. I will know for sure once my projectors(that have shipped) arrive and are installed.
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10-22-2014, 09:26 PM
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Here's Fred's website:
The ultimate bi-xenon headlight retrofit kit for Sport & Super cars
Here's the thread showing the evolution of his design and quite a few members' installations.
Porsche Headlight Retrofit [from CAD, prototyping to finish)
If you don't want to do it yourself (I found splitting the case to be a real challenge), PM member particlewave for an awesome installation.
If you're interested in doing it yourself, I have a fairly detailed procedure that's about 90% done (I ran out of energy). PM me.
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10-23-2014, 06:19 AM
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No way, Charles. You took the blowtorch to those, right??
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10-23-2014, 07:15 AM
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Thanks Norm, huge help!!
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10-23-2014, 07:29 AM
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get some fuse taps rather than modifying the fuses. I found them at NAPA autoparts. I think it was like $5 for 4 or something like that. NAPA part #$ 784601
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I did some searching and found the thread on converting your fog lights to DRL. Easy hack. Thanks Savinor!
DRL-Fog Light Hack
As far as the fog lights, the stock H7 light puts out a lot of heat and in time will yellow (read burn) the lens. I found the below HID light on eBay for $13 a pair to work great. I went through several LED lights until I found this one. Shipping time from China was eight days.
2 Pcs H7 SMD5050 12 LED Car Front Fog Light Bulb White CREE Q5 Lamp 12V 30V S0BZ | eBay
JayG used these. They are a tad more money ($37) but the same design. IMHO, they look better than mine but once installed you don't really notice them.
2X White Bulbs H7 Car Genuine CREE XB D LED Fog Light Lamps Headlight | eBay
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10-23-2014, 09:58 AM
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No way, Charles. You took the blowtorch to those, right??
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Hey Norm. Thanks for the references
The picture that I posted above is what happens when you use those stupid "HID White" blue bulbs. I've had a few sets that were this bad or even worse. One set was missing the entire middle portion of the lens...it was pooled up in the bottom of the reflector!
On top of that, the bulbs are usually blown up like a balloon because they got so hot that the glass melted!
I usually have some good inner lenses lying around. If I don't, I usually know who does
Just put a spanking new set in these last night.
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10-27-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by particlewave
The picture that I posted above is what happens when you use those stupid "HID White" blue bulbs. I've had a few sets that were this bad or even worse. One set was missing the entire middle portion of the lens...it was pooled up in the bottom of the reflector!
On top of that, the bulbs are usually blown up like a balloon because they got so hot that the glass melted!
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10-27-2014, 09:47 PM
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wow... when you thought you've seen it all ^ unbelievable!
The whole car could have been toasted if this glass would have failed and made contact with that cheap plastic reflector thingny lol
Exterminate the halogens
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10-28-2014, 06:33 AM
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Just put a spanking new set in these last night.
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And those will be burned in a few years.
To quote Fred: Exterminate the halogens!
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