01-15-2017, 07:19 PM
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How does one acquire a set of these for their Box??
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01-15-2017, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
Thanks Charles, I'm looking forward to the instructions
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The post below shows the wiring. This one shows a full size automotive relay, but the principle and wiring is exactly the same.
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Originally Posted by particlewave
LEDs don't like heat. The LED angel eye halos are inside of the projector unit with the HID bulb, so you really don't want them powered on while the HIDs are on.
It is wise to put them on a relay so that they are off when the HIDs are on. This will greatly extend their life and prevent premature failure. Wiring shown below...
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Last edited by particlewave; 01-15-2017 at 09:11 PM.
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01-16-2017, 12:43 AM
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Kudos to Particlewave (and Bruce!!). I'm confident ppl who wish to DIY will find this useful.
In a meantime, (Jon & all) I have warmed my wife Helen that I will soon resume my nocturnal working operations at the shop shortly after Chinese New Year (2 weeks from now). Plan is to get a few kits ready before spring. Hopefully I will have regained access to at least one of my two cars by then (wife have been hiding the car keys from me since October).
However, chances that the new crop of projectors comes with angel eyes is very slim. Possibly close to none. However they will remain bi-xenon and be better than before.
Thanks to Kevin, Paul and Rick for the kind words. Sincerely hope you guys are doing great on your sides there. Keep it up!
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01-16-2017, 08:32 AM
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Charles, the relay you linked to has 5 pins on it, I assume it will be easy to figure it out once they arrive? How are you connecting the wires to the relay? Soldering or a spade connector? Thanks for your help.
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01-16-2017, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
Charles, the relay you linked to has 5 pins on it, I assume it will be easy to figure it out once they arrive? How are you connecting the wires to the relay? Soldering or a spade connector? Thanks for your help.
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I solder the wires on. The relay has 2 pins on one side and 3 on the other. The 2 pins are the coil and are connected to the low beam (red and black, polarity doesn't matter). The 3 pins are the contacts. I'll have to look to see which is which and report back, but you could easily determine that with a multimeter or even a test light.
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01-16-2017, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by particlewave
I solder the wires on. The relay has 2 pins on one side and 3 on the other. The 2 pins are the coil and are connected to the low beam (red and black, polarity doesn't matter). The 3 pins are the contacts. I'll have to look to see which is which and report back, but you could easily determine that with a multimeter or even a test light.
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Ok, thanks
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01-27-2017, 12:47 AM
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Any chance these are available again?
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01-27-2017, 02:28 AM
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Any chance these are available again?
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Hi Josh,
I'm putting the shop back into operation right after Chinese New Year. However it is very unlikely that the new batch will be manufactured to accommodate LED Angel Eyes. If this is okay with you then I think I can slip you in the next batch (got 4 other fellas here waiting, with you 5 if you are in).
Let me know what you need and I'll get those ready for you hopefully before your autumn kicks in.
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01-27-2017, 11:34 AM
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Why are the angel eyes no longer an option?
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Originally Posted by Nine8Six
Hi Josh,
I'm putting the shop back into operation right after Chinese New Year. However it is very unlikely that the new batch will be manufactured to accommodate LED Angel Eyes. If this is okay with you then I think I can slip you in the next batch (got 4 other fellas here waiting, with you 5 if you are in).
Let me know what you need and I'll get those ready for you hopefully before your autumn kicks in.
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01-27-2017, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by batshapedheart
Why are the angel eyes no longer an option?
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Because I'm Out of Stock
Seriously. Those angel eyes have somehow managed to upgrade themselves to a single point of failure (SPOF). In the sense that some fellas 'occasionally' buy these projectors simply because they have angel eyes. That is all fine, nothing wrong there. The problem comes if/when one or more AE fail. The product is therefore discredited. Hence the word 'single' in point of failure. And my responsibility is to quickly eliminate this - if you want to hear the real reason bud.
I already hear you say "but-but-but source better and engineer smarter", which is fair enough, however the truth is whether LED comes from China or Golden Country, kept cooled or not, they remain what they are, a risk. A risk which is not directly linked to the core functionality of the kit.
I'd like to focus on what these kits really are (i.e. the original concept) which was: "A quick and affordable way to modernize the look of your Porsche Boxster (or 911) while providing better light distribution over stock halogen". That is exactly what started the idea and I desperately want to go back to it. Hell, you even get a fully personalized laser script in the package lolll
Beside simplify the design, next step really is to find effective ways to make them available to everyone. To the guys with and without DIY experience. Whether this involve getting a custom BOSCH headlight-housing harness professionally designed, HD video productions of installation procedures, or both, this is what I'll need to work hard on instead. Not wasting any more time to find creative ways to make them look cool'er.
They are already super duper cool!
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01-27-2017, 01:24 PM
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I agree with axing the angel eyes.
The bottom line is that things fail and Fred has no control over manufacturers quality control, nor the running conditions that buyers of the kit put them through. They look cool, but have the potential to put a blemish on these beautiful projectors and Fred's hard work.
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01-27-2017, 06:52 PM
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It might be nice to retain the ae machined holes in the bezels.....if desired. Beautiful cooling vents...
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01-27-2017, 07:09 PM
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It might be nice to retain the ae machined holes in the bezels.....if desired. Beautiful cooling vents...
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That's what I figured when I got the LED's. I figured if they died, I still like the look of the holes
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01-27-2017, 07:57 PM
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Yes I agree love the look of the holes with or without the angel eyes
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01-27-2017, 09:24 PM
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01-27-2017, 11:22 PM
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I'm actually kind of excited these may be available without the angel eyes. Fred, if not a hassle, can I see a mock up of what your newer Vivo style would look like without the angel eye holes?
I'm most interested in a silver, which would pay homeage to the period-correct, factory litronic highly reflective chrome finished look. (Maybe polished aluminum with clear anodize on all the visible pieces, if you can do that?)
(Really beautiful design and machine work, by the way!)
Follow-up question: do BruceH's and CraigM's projectors have a silver rear sleeve, or black?
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01-28-2017, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
Looks great unlit
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Bloody hell, those are seriously nice pics. Hope you don't mind me saving those in my Best Pics folder
Thanks Captain, sincerely grateful for those
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Fred, if not a hassle, can I see a mock up of what your newer Vivo style would look like without the angel eye holes?
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Jake, not a hassle at all bud. I'll get those rendered and published here for us to see and judge what's the best way forward. The VIVO will look amazing without the holes, kinda tactical looking (i.e. serious look).
Let's see, give me a few days for those to come out
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01-28-2017, 07:45 AM
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Follow-up question: do BruceH's and CraigM's projectors have a silver rear sleeve, or black?
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Mine is the stock silver, no black.
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Originally Posted by Nine8Six
Bloody hell, those are seriously nice pics. Hope you don't mind me saving those in my Best Pics folder
Thanks Captain, sincerely grateful for those
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No problem Fred, it is your outstanding work!
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01-29-2017, 12:00 AM
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Unfortunately my X5 blew up on the way home from my fathers 60th so looks like my car budget is spoken for, for the next little while.
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01-29-2017, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by joshstix
Unfortunately my X5 blew up on the way home from my fathers 60th so looks like my car budget is spoken for, for the next little while.
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Crap, sorry to hear bud. Hope it can all be fixed. You know where to find us if there is anything we can help with. RE headlights, chances they'll still be available on your father's 70th so no worries on that.
Happy Birthday to dad
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