Oil count down timer - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Tyfromoahu · 10-01-2018, 01:42 AM

Hey I’ve been curious I just picked up a 1999 Boxster and the previous owner said I have to wait out the count down timer it’s usually around 5 seconds. He said it’s for oil pressure to build up but I’ve done research and been confused between oil the oil pressure light and oil indicator light.
First day I drove it home I stalled it about 3 Times and it wouldn’t crank the timer said about 3-5 minutes is that normal? When I get in it regularly can I just start it or do I actually have to wait it out initially?
I plan to autocross the car here on Oahu and some times you spin out causing stalls so is this a good autocross car? I don’t want to be that guy that holds people up for the whole season because of my car.

Mahalo,
Ty Kaneshiro

Deserion · 10-01-2018, 04:00 AM

The timer (at ~5 seconds) on initial turn-on is just a countdown to determine the oil level. The longer timer ~60 minutes after it's been running is to allow the oil to settle before a good read is able to be taken.

Tyfromoahu · 10-01-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Deserion

The timer (at ~5 seconds) on initial turn-on is just a countdown to determine the oil level. The longer timer ~60 minutes after it's been running is to allow the oil to settle before a good read is able to be taken.

Hey mahalo for responding.

Anker · 10-01-2018, 05:13 AM

The oil pump is mechanical and only runs when the engine is running!

paulofto · 10-01-2018, 05:45 AM

The dash gauge measures oil level, not oil pressure. Your car does not have a pressure gauge, only a low oil pressure warning light. If you have any doubts about your oil level you also have a dip stick in the trunk. Newer models only have the dash gauge.

A8ked · 10-01-2018, 07:50 AM

If you look at pg. 76 of the owners manual there is a page explaining of the oil level gauge. You can Google a copy of the manual if you don't have one.

Tyfromoahu · 10-01-2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by A8ked

If you look at pg. 76 of the owners manual there is a page explaining of the oil level gauge. You can Google a copy of the manual if you don't have one.

Do you know why I couldn’t crank after I stalled?

steved0x · 10-01-2018, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyfromoahu

Do you know why I couldn’t crank after I stalled?

I've seen this before - in the Boxster, if you stall, you have to turn the key all (or at least some of) the way off before attempting a restart. If you try and start from the "on" position (where the key was when you stalled) it won't engage the starter.

It is probably in the manual somewhere but this caught me out when I spun at an autocross and stalled the car... I went to restart and nothing happened until I cycled the key

maytag · 10-01-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by steved0x

I've seen this before - in the Boxster, if you stall, you have to turn the key all (or at least some of) the way off before attempting a restart. If you try and start from the "on" position (where the key was when you stalled) it won't engage the starter.

It is probably in the manual somewhere but this caught me out when I spun at an autocross and stalled the car... I went to restart and nothing happened until I cycled the key

FWIW: this is not just the Boxster. Every European car I've owned since about model-year '95 has had this "feature". it prevents accidental engagement of the starter to an already-running car. If you stall (or if you turn the key and it doesn't start), you must return the key counter-clockwise to the "OFF" position before turning clockwise to start again.

But there is no "Timer" that counts down before you can start. As others have mentioned: there is an oil gauge that takes some time to read, but doesn't require you wait to start. And, again as others have mentioned: if the motor isn't running, there is no oil pressure. the gauge simply indicates level.

Tyfromoahu · 10-01-2018, 11:03 AM

Mahalo I’ll check it out later today. I hope I will get a positive response from my car?!

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Originally Posted by maytag

FWIW: this is not just the Boxster. Every European car I've owned since about model-year '95 has had this "feature". it prevents accidental engagement of the starter to an already-running car. If you stall (or if you turn the key and it doesn't start), you must return the key counter-clockwise to the "OFF" position before turning clockwise to start again.

But there is no "Timer" that counts down before you can start. As others have mentioned: there is an oil gauge that takes some time to read, but doesn't require you wait to start. And, again as others have mentioned: if the motor isn't running, there is no oil pressure. the gauge simply indicates level.

Tyfromoahu · 10-01-2018, 11:17 AM

How do you fully step by step cycle the key?
Mahalo,
Ty Kaneshiro

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Originally Posted by steved0x

I've seen this before - in the Boxster, if you stall, you have to turn the key all (or at least some of) the way off before attempting a restart. If you try and start from the "on" position (where the key was when you stalled) it won't engage the starter.

It is probably in the manual somewhere but this caught me out when I spun at an autocross and stalled the car... I went to restart and nothing happened until I cycled the key

maytag · 10-01-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyfromoahu

How do you fully step by step cycle the key?
Mahalo,
Ty Kaneshiro

Don't overthink this, haha.
When you start the car, you turn the key clockwise to the "START" position. Then it rests in the "RUN" position.
If the motor stalls, the key is still in the "RUN" position, and must be "cycled" back, so turned counter-clockwise to "OFF" position before it can be turned clockwise to "START" again. This is what he means by "cycling the key".

A8ked · 10-01-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyfromoahu

Do you know why I couldn’t crank after I stalled?

I think it is what SetevdOx said.

Geof3 · 10-01-2018, 10:20 PM

Even though it isn’t, (well it kind of is) I think of the countdown and other blinky lights as a “start up procedure”. Once everything settles down then I start the car. And yes, you need to fully turn the ignition off before restarting.

Tyfromoahu · 10-02-2018, 09:13 AM

I figured out one of my problems the key and ignition is very loose. I guess it does have 87,000 miles on her. So I have to push firmly at the same time turn to crank. If I let the key get kind of loose it only goes into accessory mode.

Mahalo for everyone’s help I cannot explain how much panic this brought to me thank you.

Mahalo,
Ty Kaneshiro

Racer Boy · 10-02-2018, 09:19 AM

Bad ignition switches are a known issue on these cars, that may be what's going on.

maytag · 10-02-2018, 10:25 AM

It sounds like you may have a bad ignition switch. This is a common problem on these cars. If you search, there are also common fixes.

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clickman · 10-03-2018, 10:41 AM

Trust me I’m not being critical but I’m concerned that you’re so worked up about this one thing already. This is a 20 year old car that you want to race. You will have things to fix. I suggest you get a Bentley manual and study it for the fixes you can do yourself. Otherwise you’d better have a good friend that works on Porsche’s or better yet is an indy. Parts also are not cheap.
Did you have a PPI done before you bought?

maytag · 10-03-2018, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman

Trust me I’m not being critical but I’m concerned that you’re so worked up about this one thing already. This is a 20 year old car that you want to race. You will have things to fix. I suggest you get a Bentley manual and study it for the fixes you can do yourself. Otherwise you’d better have a good friend that works on Porsche’s or better yet is an indy. Parts also are not cheap.
Did you have a PPI done before you bought?

I don't get the sense he's "worked up" at all. He said in the first part "... just curious.. ".
A couple of things seem to be clear:
1. The person he bought the car from france him some misguided information, which he understandably thought was correct.
2. English doesn't seem to be his first language yet he seems to manage fine. (I hope I'm not offending)
3. This is probably his first porsche, and possibly first European car.

All of these things contribute to his multiple posts here. He's excited. But I don't get the sense that he's "worked up".

And personally, I think a PPI is a little overrated. You're buying a dirt-cheap, entry level, bottom of the line, 15 year old porsche. Let's not act like it's some exotic that needs specialized attention.

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