Help, Deamber side markers

[tuanle16]

Originally Posted by tony_fury

My misunderstanding..

I designed a simple circuit for motorcycle two wire LED turn signals.
The same circuit would work for the side markers lights.

The circuit is nothing more than two diodes and a resistor.
Since the side marker lights are only two wires - 12V & ground this would work for what your trying to do. (side marker lights as running lights & turn signal)

You would basically feed the turn signal lead into one input (diode only lead) and the parking light lead (running light) into the other input. (diode with resistor)
The single output lead would go to the side marker light. plus the ground wire..

All the parts can be acquired from RadioShack. Simple to build, I used heat shrink tubing to enclose the components.
See drawing of the circuit below.
Your biggest challenge would be taping into the turn signal lead for each side.
You would need a total of 4 diodes and 2 resistors. RadioShack part numbers provided.
Hope this helps
T

wow. thanks tony!

[tony_fury]

Thanks...

Here's a picture of the components assembled with heat shrink tubing for insulating.
I basically soldered the wires to the ends of the components to allow for connection to the wires on the vehicle.

[Meir]

Hi Tony.
thanks a lot.
you explanation is perfect. in fact i understood it the firs time.
i know a thing or two about diodes and resistors.
the problems are:
1. i have the same relay you mentioned but it doesn't work
maybe a bad one? i sent an email to V-LEDS support. lets see what they say.
2. in your setup, the lights will stay on, and just become brighter when turn signal is activated. using relay it will go on and off just like regular turn signal.


if i can get the relay to work, i do not need to run a wire to the car.
i can use the signal power to run the relay and the LED.

with that said, i love your setup. its great. much more simple to preform.
i never thought of dimming the running light using a resistor.

plus, look what i got in my office drawers:

[tony_fury]

Meir:
Nice supply,

I do understand your relay concept

I have the EFL-3 in a box and never put it on the car. There was no need since my rear DEPO light have 1156 bulbs for turn signal keeping the load status quo..

I did read an article about a 914 owner that purchased a LED relay and had to reverse engineer it make it work.. Might fit your situation..
Porsche 914 EV Conversion: Installing LED Lights and Fixing the LED Flasher

good luck..
T

[Meir]

Originally Posted by tony_fury

Meir:
Nice supply,

I do understand your relay concept

I have the EFL-3 in a box and never put it on the car. There was no need since my rear DEPO light have 1156 bulbs for turn signal keeping the load status quo..

I did read an article about a 914 owner that purchased a LED relay and had to reverse engineer it make it work.. Might fit your situation..
Porsche 914 EV Conversion: Installing LED Lights and Fixing the LED Flasher

good luck..
T

thanks tony, ill give it a try.
where did you get the bulbs for the DEPO, and are you using the same bulbs for the front turn signal (the ones in the head light)?

[Homeboy981]

O.K. since we are on the subject. I have LEDs bulbs for front & rear turn signals (yellow) and ALL brake lights (I have replaced the third brake lights already-BRIGHT!), rear fog and backup lights too. All these bulbs are gathering dust because I have tried it and NOTHING. I have replaced the flasher with an electronic one, thought that would do it.

Anyway, I have not been able to find an answer. So far the best I have gotten is to butcher the system by installing load resistors - which I have, but wondered if there was a more elegant and less-invasive alternative….well Tony or Meir - you guys up for it?

You can PM me if you do not want to hi-jack the thread but with LEDs gaining in popularity AND them being far brighter, if you buys the right ones, I wold think more Pcar peeps would be using them. Maybe I'm just thick about this. Would the diagram for the 914 work? Meir, you have more selection that Radio Shack!

[Meir]

Originally Posted by Homeboy981

O.K. since we are on the subject. I have LEDs bulbs for front & rear turn signals (yellow) and ALL brake lights (I have replaced the third brake lights already-BRIGHT!), rear fog and backup lights too. All these bulbs are gathering dust because I have tried it and NOTHING. I have replaced the flasher with an electronic one, thought that would do it.

Anyway, I have not been able to find an answer. So far the best I have gotten is to butcher the system by installing load resistors - which I have, but wondered if there was a more elegant and less-invasive alternative….well Tony or Meir - you guys up for it?

You can PM me if you do not want to hi-jack the thread but with LEDs gaining in popularity AND them being far brighter, if you buys the right ones, I wold think more Pcar peeps would be using them. Maybe I'm just thick about this. Would the diagram for the 914 work? Meir, you have more selection that Radio Shack!

Looks like this weekend is going to be stormy down here, so no pool party for me
I'll give it a try this weekend and let you know.

[tony_fury]

Originally Posted by Homeboy981

O.K. since we are on the subject. I have LEDs bulbs for front & rear turn signals (yellow) and ALL brake lights (I have replaced the third brake lights already-BRIGHT!), rear fog and backup lights too. All these bulbs are gathering dust because I have tried it and NOTHING. I have replaced the flasher with an electronic one, thought that would do it.

Anyway, I have not been able to find an answer. So far the best I have gotten is to butcher the system by installing load resistors - which I have, but wondered if there was a more elegant and less-invasive alternative….well Tony or Meir - you guys up for it?

You can PM me if you do not want to hi-jack the thread but with LEDs gaining in popularity AND them being far brighter, if you buys the right ones, I wold think more Pcar peeps would be using them. Maybe I'm just thick about this. Would the diagram for the 914 work? Meir, you have more selection that Radio Shack!

What your describing and researching the web, I'm up for the challenge..
I might as well put my electronics skills to use.. I think a similar mod like the 914 is probably the resolution but would have to put it on the bench to reproduce it.. I have a EFL-3 and some LED's, let me see what I can replicate on the bench..
T

[tony_fury]

Originally Posted by Meir

thanks tony, ill give it a try.
where did you get the bulbs for the DEPO, and are you using the same bulbs for the front turn signal (the ones in the head light)?

Meir:
The model DEPO rear lights were designed with light bulbs for turn signals and reverse lights, the front headlights have LED's built in. White LED's that flash amber when engaged. I'm not certain if the LED circuitry has built in load resistors. But the combination of the front and rears do not cause the hyper flash. I also change the 3rd brake light with a LED model and it didn't need load resistors. Had no ill effects that some members encountered with the cruise control not engaging that I read.
T

[Meir]

thanks a lot tony.
gonna tackle that this weekend.