The Boxster, the poor man's porsche and Inferiority complex

[Kenny Boxster]

There's two kinds of drivers, image drivers and enthusiast drivers. I drive the car because it is so damn pleasurable and a blast. The handling is superb and I can't help but find myself with a $hit eating grin from the unavoidable mischief this car just evokes. With the Boxster I'd give a 996 a run for it's money on the track. To call the Boxster a poor man's porsche is somewhat daft; it's like calling a f430 a poor man's Ferrari because you don't have an Enzo... The Boxster didn't just get so many good critically acclaimed reviews for nothing .

[madmods]

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[woodsman]

Originally Posted by madmods

yep understood - sincere apologies

thread is closed

you're not in control here!

[clickman]

We just got back from a trip through the interior of BC - lots of great curvy roads. As I was pulling as much g as I dared in the corners, I often thought to myself (and remarked to my partner at least once): Thank God this isn't a 911, or we'd be in the ditch by now.

[polkfarmboy]

Originally Posted by madmods

Yep understood - sincere apologies

THREAD IS CLOSED

Your eyes are closed and your heart is weak, you have insulted my honor and now you must defeat my five style dragon fist :dance:

[smshirk]

Originally Posted by madmods

How many of you here lack of self-worth, a doubt and uncertainty, and feeling of not measuring up to modern car standards and trends being owner of the cheapest available Porsche?!

REF: "Inferiority complex": a person who feels inferior always comes up with powerful defense mechanisms that helps him hide his feelings of inferiority from others and even from himself.

Most of these defense mechanisms are launched by the subconscious mind and so the person never becomes aware of that fact that he is using these mechanisms to hide something.

I've been browsing 986forum.com for a few days while on holiday and found an alarming new wave of this kind of behavior. Triple increase of haters in less than 1.5 years, etc... I've read as bad as fellow 986 owners taking pleasure attacking another 986 owner for no apparent reason. It's all over the place and embarrassing.

What happen here? I'm asking the guys who were here back in 2010/11

I have 3 Porsches all of which are probably the cheapest way into a Porsche you can take. Boxster, 968' and 911 Sc. I'm not one bit ashamed of taking any one of those routes. All are great cars in their own way. And yet they are so different. 968 is bone stock, 911 sc is except for SsI's and losing the cat, Boxster not at all stock. Of course the Boxster is faster, but there are days when I prefer the 911. Mostly in cool weather. IVe grown accustomed to working AC. The 968 is a fabulous car which a lot of people don't get a 4 cylinder Porsche, with.the engine inthe wrong place, but the cars handling is pretty much on par with the Boxster and its a convertible , although not purpose built that way. I think id rather have a coupe, but it took several years to get it sorted out and all the Porsche bugs exterminated. Same with the SC. The 3.0 is n acclaimed as bullet proof, but only after you upgrade the tensionsers and air box seems all Porsches have issues. It's just there are more m96 owners than any other class of Porsche, and more failures as a result.

The fact that Porsche took a lot of short cuts with the m96 got them out of debt, into the black and and put us into a state of panic when first learning about IMS and d chunk failures doesn't make m96s bad cars. But if jake, Charles, and probably others I'm not familiar with had not come along with aftermarket solutions, the Boxster would not be on the list of affordable P-cars. There would be a ton more of them in junk yards Porsche was doing nothing to help

[TeamOxford]

It appears that madmods has apologized profusely for his recent posts. I suggest that we all look to our forgiving nature and move on now.

Just sayin'..................

TO

"Can't we all just get along?" Rodney King, after the LAPD beat the everlovin' crap outta him!

[Verhag]

With regard to owning/driving a Boxster....waited 40 years to buy my 1st Porsche. Was a no brainier decision....a 97 993 C4S, and it has been everything and more than I hoped for. Last month, picked up an plain old 2000 Boxster S, a Tip no less, for my daily driver (suffered a stroke recently and decided to sell my 06 Miata 6 speed for the Tip Boxster and ease of driving around town. 110 degrees common here in Phoenix and the Boxster a/c is tremendous. Not only that but even as a Tip it's a blast to drive!
I could care less what anyone else thinks...very pleased with both cars, when I feel the need to double clutch/heel and toe, the Carrera comes out but the Boxster fits the bill for my needs at this time. I can only imagine what a manual late model Boxster must feel like. Some day, I'll know. The MX-5 was a fine little car, however the Boxster is so much more! Love it.

[Deserion]

Yeah, I'd like a 911, but in addition to my Boxster and not in replacement of it.

The extra HP in a 911 would go to waste on me, in all honesty. The (base) Boxster suits me just fine for how I drive. For what it is, the car pleases me and I enjoy the drives (will enjoy them more when I don't have to commute in it but can just drive for fun).

Generally when I see 911s in traffic they wave back. Boxsters? Not so much.

[madmods]

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[986_c6]

Interesting thread...at least he is man enough to apologize!

Boxsters rule!!

How do I know? Look at the strong second hand market on these things! Yeah, price is low, but you need to think relatively. 97-02 SL500's are selling for the same price as an example, but they are twice the price when new.

[SeanZ4]

Never had the poor man's porsche comment. I did have a guy say "that's the girl Porsche"... My reply was "that's what people who don't know much about Porsches say"....

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by SeanZ4

Never had the poor man's porsche comment. I did have a guy say "that's the girl Porsche"... My reply was "that's what people who don't know much about Porsches say"....

What kind of car was this person driving?

I get at least one comment each day that I drive my car, usually when I'm stepping out of it to go into a store. And it's a better than even chance that the gas station attendant will smile and say "nice car sir". One time these two girls leaving a trendy W hotel started taking pictures of me picking up from the valet even though there was an AMG big fast whatever Merc five feet away that cost probaly 10X's what this old bucket is now worth. I think the owner of the AMG was standing there with his girlfriend and wasn't amused that the girls were excited by my car.

People seem to love this car particularly kids. They're always shouting from bikes or sometimes I see this glassy-eyed stare like if someone just switched on little mermaid on the TV. In all of those comments, I don't think I remember anyone ever calling it a Boxster, they always refer to it or ask about it as simply a Porsche. I almost think that 99% of the public don't know that the Boxster and Carrera are different cars. I've heard some Carrera guys say "no one ever dreams about owning a Boxster" but I have to tell them that I've lost count of the number of people over 10 years that went up to me and said "you have my dream car". And they span all ages from teen agers to senior citizens who seemed sad they never had one. That makes me realize how much self-inflicted nonsense Porsche owners buy into, all for Porsche to get more money out of them.

[SeanZ4]

He was driving a lexus or something like that. This was a couple of years ago. Really, that's the only comment I ever remember. Like you Perfectlap, 99% of everyone just calls it a Porsche and I get the same reactions from kids on bikes too!

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by SeanZ4

He was driving a lexus or something like that. This was a couple of years ago. Really, that's the only comment I ever remember. Like you Perfectlap, 99% of everyone just calls it a Porsche and I get the same reactions from kids on bikes too!

Lexus cars are fine for people who play bingo and hit the early bird at Friendly's.


I'm a bit baffled as to why roadsters get the the girly car label when most women avoid manual transmission cars. They (mostly) go for automatic VW Beetles and Cabriolets, FIAT 500s, automatic Mini Coopers, automatic Range Rovers (the #1 chick dream car) and automatic Cayennes, automatic Jeep Libertys, automatic BMW and Merc sedans.

A female driving a small, cramped manual transmission car that can only fit one girlfriend is stuff you (mostly) only see in movies. Usually its a middle-age white professional male driving a roadster. Everyone else in the world wants an SUV.

[Goodbiketime]

My wife and I own a BMW 323i(mildly modded plus 2 rims, lowered, tinted windows, etc., etc.) no one refers to it as a poor man's BMW even though it is the least expensive of the line up and a BMW Z3(no mods, but factory M appearance package) and much more of a girls car, even though I love to drive it and a Guards Red Porsche 986. The point is none are near the top of the marque's high dollar cars. I just consider myself very blessed to have 3 such awesome cars and I could care less what others think or say. How many of them own any of these cars? My guess is not too many! It's a funny thing that people that do own more expensive cars never call the 986 a poor man's Porsche, it's the one's that drive really ordinary cars that call them that!

[BYprodriver]

[QUOTE=Perfectlap;358761]Lexus cars are fine for people who play bingo and hit the early bird at Friendly's


If my wife hears you saying that at a traffic light, all you will see when the light changes is pictured below & you will be powerless to change your view!

[eli cash]

Huh. Never had the "poor man's porsche" comment. As many have pointed out, quite the opposite where I am nervous to mention the brand because most people have the perception that it is an unattainable luxury car.

[madmods]

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[coreseller]

The Mullett is strong with this thread......................