Who makes the original Porsche water pumps?

[Jake Raby]

OEM and OES are different. Unless a pump has the "Porsche P" stamped on it, we don't use it.

If people were more concerned with quality, and understood value; rather than just the cheapest price, we'd sell our parts. Thats not the case.

[mountainman]

Jake, do you know what manufacturers have the "Porsche P' stamped on their pumps? Is there any manufacturer's info other than Porsche p. I have called 2 dealers parts departments and they have no idea what they are selling. I am concerned with quality and that is the reason I am looking for more info, so I can be sure I am getting it.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by mountainman

do you know what manufacturers have the "Porsche P' stamped on their pumps?

The OEM one's at Sunset. Did you call Phil Coy yet?

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

The OEM one's at Sunset. Did you call Phil Coy yet?

As a matter of fact I did and they have no idea who manufactures the pump they sell, only that it is stamped made in france. Is that more OEM than one made in china? He said it is definitely not the manufacturer that made the one that came on the car. It appears that you are also buying a pig in a poke like the rest of us and thinking you are getting OEM.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by mountainman

As a matter of fact I did and they have no idea who manufactures the pump they sell, only that it is stamped made in france. Is that more OEM than one made in china? He said it is definitely not the manufacturer that made the one that came on the car. It appears that you are also buying a pig in a poke like the rest of us and thinking you are getting OEM.

Except that for the occasional "out of the box" dud, they go in and seem to last, and more importantly do not have metal impellers.

Very few dealer parts departments can tell you anything about who makes any part, or even what country they originate from; they just place an order in the OEM's parts distribution computer network and wait for the part to show up.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

OEM and OES are different. Unless a pump has the "Porsche P" stamped on it, we don't use it.

If people were more concerned with quality, and understood value; rather than just the cheapest price, we'd sell our parts. Thats not the case.

The Differences Between OE OEM and OES Parts

[Jake Raby]

We have noted at least 3 different suppliers of water pumps. We buy them direct from Porsche and don't complain about the cost.

The pumps are different, not just re-branded.

That said, we change all pumps every 3 years, no matter the mileage. I just sent letters out to our engine purchasers from 2011 as a reminder to change their water pumps.

I am not big on OEM Porsche parts like most people are, in fact I'd love it if we had every part for our engines made in our network. The water pumps are worth the extra money.

As for "competition", well I took my parts store offline last year and don't care if we ever sell another component. I develop, someone else can sell it. Selling parts is boring and any keyboard warrior can do it.

All we sell is engines, built primarily from our own developed components.

[V-Rod]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

We have noted at least 3 different suppliers of water pumps. We buy them direct from Porsche and don't complain about the cost.

The pumps are different, not just re-branded.

That said, we change all pumps every 3 years, no matter the mileage. I just sent letters out to our engine purchasers from 2011 as a reminder to change their water pumps.

I am not big on OEM Porsche parts like most people are, in fact I'd love it if we had every part for our engines made in our network. The water pumps are worth the extra money.

So if I walk into a Porsche dealer and buy a water pump in a Porsche box then I can assume that it is a solid 3 years and that it is as good or better than the one that it is replacing.

Is this what you are saying Jake?

[mountainman]

Hey guys, I apologize for this whole thread. I get some great information from this forum and very much appreciate the benefit we get from it. I asked what I thought was a very valid question in hopes of getting some useful information and some have ridiculed it and taken it as an attack on their favorite Porsche dealer or Porsche in general. I thought I was asking a very simple question and did not mean for it to turn into a ridiculous pissing match. Maybe my communication skills are not as good as I thought they were. Thanks for the constructive comments.

[BYprodriver]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Hey guys, I apologize for this whole thread. I get some great information from this forum and very much appreciate the benefit we get from it. I asked what I thought was a very valid question in hopes of getting some useful information and some have ridiculed it and taken it as an attack on their favorite Porsche dealer or Porsche in general. I thought I was asking a very simple question and did not mean for it to turn into a ridiculous pissing match. Maybe my communication skills are not as good as I thought they were. Thanks for the constructive comments.

You have nothing to apologize for.

Suncoast Motorsports has mistakes on it's website that can result in you ordering a part that will not fit a 986 & they make a big hassle to return it. I now order from Sunset Porsche in OR.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Hey guys, I apologize for this whole thread. I get some great information from this forum and very much appreciate the benefit we get from it. I asked what I thought was a very valid question in hopes of getting some useful information and some have ridiculed it and taken it as an attack on their favorite Porsche dealer or Porsche in general. I thought I was asking a very simple question and did not mean for it to turn into a ridiculous pissing match. Maybe my communication skills are not as good as I thought they were. Thanks for the constructive comments.

No need.

I should.

Sorry for my silly comments (McDonalds and Diet Coke).

[mistermac99]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Hey guys, I apologize for this whole thread. I get some great information from this forum and very much appreciate the benefit we get from it. I asked what I thought was a very valid question in hopes of getting some useful information and some have ridiculed it and taken it as an attack on their favorite Porsche dealer or Porsche in general. I thought I was asking a very simple question and did not mean for it to turn into a ridiculous pissing match. Maybe my communication skills are not as good as I thought they were. Thanks for the constructive comments.

I thought this forum was for information sharing, to help us gain knowledge about our cars. I don't like to see this kind of treatment to a fellow member who asks a perfectly reasonable question. I've seen newbies ask all kinds of dumb questions, myself included, and didn't get this sort of harassment.