Techno Torque 2

[Bobiam]

OK.... I've read everything. And I've watched Pedro's video. A few thngs bother me, such as Porsche substantially reducing the R and L tubes exiting the splitter at the same time that they increased the the engine size from 2.5L to 2.7L.
That sort of says that the capacity of these tubes is not all that important. So, is a little turbulence really a big deal? So, what does that mean for TechnoTorque?? Of course the smaller tubes also increase the velocity of the air at this point, and that may be to the engines advantage! Who knows?

I would like to believe the claims made by Pedro, as he is a respected straight shooter. But we really need some buyer/user input at this time. Both for the TechnoTroque and TechnoTorque2.

Readers want to know. Is there really a noticable and impressive difference in torque at these mid range RPMs??? Is there really a noticable or measurable MPG difference???

Considering Pedro's return policy, the only loss if a buyer is dissatisfied is one way shipping cost and a few hours labor.

Bob

[ppbon]

Originally Posted by Bobiam

OK.... I've read everything. And I've watched Pedro's video. A few thngs bother me, such as Porsche substantially reducing the R and L tubes exiting the splitter at the same time that they increased the the engine size from 2.5L to 2.7L.
That sort of says that the capacity of these tubes is not all that important. So, is a little turbulence really a big deal? So, what does that mean for TechnoTorque?? Of course the smaller tubes also increase the velocity of the air at this point, and that may be to the engines advantage! Who knows?

I would like to believe the claims made by Pedro, as he is a respected straight shooter. But we really need some buyer/user input at this time. Both for the TechnoTroque and TechnoTorque2.

Readers want to know. Is there really a noticable and impressive difference in torque at these mid range RPMs??? Is there really a noticable or measurable MPG difference???

Considering Pedro's return policy, the only loss if a buyer is dissatisfied is one way shipping cost and a few hours labor.

Bob

I've never claimed that there's an impressive difference in torque.
I've been stating that there's a gain of 6 to 8 extra foot-pounds of torque at 900 less revolutions.
That's roughly a 4% increase, depending on the particular car.
Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

[Bobiam]

Originally Posted by ppbon

I've never claimed that there's an impressive difference in torque.
I've been stating that there's a gain of 6 to 8 extra foot-pounds of torque at 900 less revolutions.
That's roughly a 4% increase, depending on the particular car.
Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

Pedro: Not being a wise guy here, but is 4% really noticeable? The concept sounds great and the quality looks good, but unless the buyer can safely say "Hey, I can really feel the difference in 'power' and performance, why would we spend the money and labor.??

Another thing that bothers me is your video demo. Redirecting the air strean because the "wedge" compresses the air stream by removing turbulance may make the velocity of the air greater at the extra distance to knock down the foam discs, but it'[s not really delivering more air. Remember that the air is not being pushed into the intake manifold by a turbo or reversed vacuum system, but is being drawn or pulled in as the engine creates vacuum at the other end. That has a big effect on turbulance the way I see it. I'm not saying that the splitter concept doesn't work somewhat, but that the video test is not a valid measure or demonstration of the value of TurboTorque.

The bottom line is really the feedback that we get from customers who participate in this forum. For those who are willing to buy and try, are you fully willing to refund if we are not satisfied with the performance improvement??

Bob

[ppbon]

Originally Posted by Bobiam

Pedro: Not being a wise guy here, but is 4% really noticeable? The concept sounds great and the quality looks good, but unless the buyer can safely say "Hey, I can really feel the difference in 'power' and performance, why would we spend the money and labor.??

Another thing that bothers me is your video demo. Redirecting the air strean because the "wedge" compresses the air stream by removing turbulance may make the velocity of the air greater at the extra distance to knock down the foam discs, but it'[s not really delivering more air. Remember that the air is not being pushed into the intake manifold by a turbo or reversed vacuum system, but is being drawn or pulled in as the engine creates vacuum at the other end. That has a big effect on turbulance the way I see it. I'm not saying that the splitter concept doesn't work somewhat, but that the video test is not a valid measure or demonstration of the value of TurboTorque.

The bottom line is really the feedback that we get from customers who participate in this forum. For those who are willing to buy and try, are you fully willing to refund if we are not satisfied with the performance improvement??

Bob

4% in torque is 4%. Some people may feel the difference, others may not.
In my car I believe my AX times are a bit better due to the improvement.
Granted, I have always said that making just one change in your system doesn't always give you gains. In my car there are "a few" hacks through the intake/exhaust.
You need to modify intake and exhaust and the ECU needs to know that you've modified it by remapping (or chipping).
Many aftermarket exhausts claim 10-18 HP gains and many people never see those gains because they don't modify the intake and remap the ECU.
The video demo was made to illustrate within my means. I'm sure that I could spend a few thousand and do something more scientific.
I ain't getting rich from this venture. It's basically a hobby.
But, I believe the demo is valid, because it shows that with the same amount of air flowing through the tee (the output of the ShopVac) you gain more efficiency with the TechnoTorque by having it travel faster and further through the modified tee.
In my way of seeing things this is good.
You may not agree, and that's OK.
You don't have to purchase one, if you're not convinced that it's a good investment for you.
I'd like to sell one to every Boxster owner, but I know that ain't gonna happen
Happy Boxstering,
Pedro