Is this bad?

[Brucelee]

I love driving fast and the Box is one of the best cars on earth for doing it in.

On the track, I think it is one of life's great experiences.

Out there, generally, you are the only one you can maim or kill.

[schnellman]

I drove the autobahn every day for ten years and there are three reasons why it is relatively safe: (1) German drivers spend months, sometimes years learning to drive before they are issued a driver's license. (2) Germans are the most disciplined drivers in the world. They always signal their intentions and they understand lane discipline. It's a driving violation to not get over for a faster car. (3) Most (not all) of their cars are designed to run safely on the autobahn.
Having said that, they also have some of the most horrendous crashes in the world with dozens of cars and dozens of fatalities in a single incident. The most frequent cause of these accidents is fog. Drivers often don't slow down enough and since you can't see enough to gauge your speed, drivers often speed on into the fog and then into each other.
Giving a 15 or 16 year old a driver's license after they pass a simple written test and drive around the block is ridiculous at best and criminal at worst. Just look at the statistics.

Just my 2 cents!

[Brucelee]

"would hate to see you filp that car and see a complete different expression on your bro's face....just a side note!"

You got that right!

[Brucelee]

This was just posted in another thread.

Imagine the chances?????

See below

Thank you everyone.

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I haven't really made any posts here, but I wanted to thank everyone for their knowledge, and the sharing of experience. I totaled my box yesterday after a very brief ownership. Although I walked away completely unharmed, I thought I would share the video I shot after the crash. Be careful out there! Hopefully, one day I will rejoin you all on the forum with another Porsche. It truly was a great car to drive....

Just to give you the brief rendition of what happened, I lost control on a curve, hit the retaining wall, and spun into the Mercedes you see in the video. Nobody was injured.

After the crash.

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

This was just posted in another thread.

Imagine the chances?????

See below

Thank you everyone.

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I haven't really made any posts here, but I wanted to thank everyone for their knowledge, and the sharing of experience. I totaled my box yesterday after a very brief ownership. Although I walked away completely unharmed, I thought I would share the video I shot after the crash. Be careful out there! Hopefully, one day I will rejoin you all on the forum with another Porsche. It truly was a great car to drive....

Just to give you the brief rendition of what happened, I lost control on a curve, hit the retaining wall, and spun into the Mercedes you see in the video. Nobody was injured.

After the crash.

Let's see the video please. what thread was it in?

[Brucelee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKja-mf_QQ

Must be nice living in your own world, where you only worry about you, and not your brother, or the other people on the road.

At 120 mph, you do not have the skills to recover from even slightest distraction...deer pops out, minivan changes lanes, tire blows, etc, etc - YOU'RE DEAD...which is really just natures way of weeding out the weak. The problem is, you're very likely to kill someone else - someone with kids, someone with a family that loves and needs them.

[Blue-S]

This dude could end up like "Civic kid" on Jalopnik.com

http://jalopnik.com/5342864/enter-civic-kid-like-slr-guy-only-nerdy

[986Roadster]

Here in Toronto, we had a 63 year old lady pulled over for "street racing".
Here car was impounded and she was given a big ticket. She was also
left on the side of the street. She fought that she was not street racing,
and that she has a very good driving record. She was disturbed by the
fact that they would leave her on the corner of the road, for driving too fast.


Apparently, she was driving in a 80 zone and pulled over at 130kmh. She says
that she only over took a slow moving truck. She was at 130 for only 30seconds.
Okay I agree, that you don't have to hit 130 to over take a truck lol.... that's
sketchy for sure. But street racing for driving too fast. 60 year lady!

She got off! http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/693457

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by 986Roadster

Here in Toronto, we had a 63 year old lady pulled over for "street racing".
Here car was impounded and she was given a big ticket. She was also
left on the side of the street. She fought that she was not street racing,
and that she has a very good driving record. She was disturbed by the
fact that they would leave her on the corner of the road, for driving too fast.


Apparently, she was driving in a 80 zone and pulled over at 130kmh. She says
that she only over took a slow moving truck. She was at 130 for only 30seconds.
Okay I agree, that you don't have to hit 130 to over take a truck lol.... that's
sketchy for sure. But street racing for driving too fast. 60 year lady!

She got off! http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/693457

Ummm, no. She was doing 80 mph in a 50 mph zone. Metric system. Sounds like the cop was a jack a_ _.

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKja-mf_QQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5717OddVxM&NR=1

another vid from the owner. he sounds really intelligent.

[Blue-S]

This is how it's done at Watkins Glen: Leh Keen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw

[Kirk]

Originally Posted by 2K3_Boxster_S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5717OddVxM&NR=1

another vid from the owner. he sounds really intelligent.

Yup, look at the video at the accident scene. Clear day, dry road, wide road, nicely paved.... it wasn't the road or conditions. He had to simply be driving too fast for his abilities or for the car.

As for Blink driving fast late at night on a straight, vacant highway.... my advice would be to get a good radar detector. I recommend the Valentine 1. A lot of CHP in Cali just leave their radar on and the V1 will let you know two miles before you can even see them! If you want to drive fast without anyone else around, at least don't get caught doing it.

As for Ohio police - I hear ya vath2001! I grew up in Ohio and the state police situation disgusts me every time I go back to visit. Try crossing from Indiana to Ohio on I-70. 95% of the time there's a couple troopers sitting there just waiting to pick off people not adjusting for the speed limit change. Too many highway patrol just trying to pull in revenue in that state.

Kirk

amazing video - wish I could drive like that - Keen is the best of the best

Originally Posted by Blue-S

This is how it's done at Watkins Glen: Leh Keen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw

[mptoledo]

Originally Posted by Kirk

Yup, look at the video at the accident scene. Clear day, dry road, wide road, nicely paved.... it wasn't the road or conditions. He had to simply be driving too fast for his abilities or for the car.

As for Blink driving fast late at night on a straight, vacant highway.... my advice would be to get a good radar detector. I recommend the Valentine 1. A lot of CHP in Cali just leave their radar on and the V1 will let you know two miles before you can even see them! If you want to drive fast without anyone else around, at least don't get caught doing it.

As for Ohio police - I hear ya vath2001! I grew up in Ohio and the state police situation disgusts me every time I go back to visit. Try crossing from Indiana to Ohio on I-70. 95% of the time there's a couple troopers sitting there just waiting to pick off people not adjusting for the speed limit change. Too many highway patrol just trying to pull in revenue in that state.

Kirk

Don't take me wrong as I certainly wish I was wrong, but Ohio State Patrol are born without a soul!! In my 2400 mile trip from Cali to columbus, I saw more cops from the indiana/ohio line to dayton than I did my whole trip, with the exception of Iowa(but there was a 3 car pile up). The bastards have even taken flight. Toledo, columbus, dayton and I am sure most big cities have adopted the bear in the air. I am still trying to develope true stealth technology!!

Ohio patrol's new motto is "we stopped the quota system years ago, so we can now write more tickets!!"

[mikefocke]

Someone else is either paying your medical expenses or sharing in them through the rise in medical insurance premiums.

Someone else is paying to dig you out of your car and your car out of the woods.

And the taxpayers pay the police expenses of the required investigation.

And if the car is hurt, I'm sure you'll be wanting to collect on insurance.

This of course assumes that there is no one else involved.

I'm 62, just bought my first Porsche, a new to me 1999 Boxster, and immediately took it out on the most winding mountainous road I could find and pushed it to my limits. The car is so deceptively fast that I've found myself at over 100 mph on several occasions thinking I was only going 65. I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 through a notoriously hairy 20mph turn at Point Reyes and the car never even squeeled the tires. Sobering reality came to me a couple of weeks ago when I was coming home from a docent party at PR, had the top down on a warm starry night, with the moon rising, and was cruising at 65 on a long, open stretch of road by Nicasio Dam. I was just ready to put my foot into it and open it up when two full grown deer jumped in front of me. I can't begin to tell you all the things that went through my mind at light speed including the memory of a high school friend who hit a donkey at night in Mexico in his 914 and it decapitated his girlfriend in the passenger seat. I braced for impact and put the binders on and was just ready to duck down so the deer would hopefully slide over the top of me when the car stopped so fast and so straight my teeth almost came out. The deer hadn't moved and were so close to the front that I could see their eyes. They strolled off into the brush and the story has a happy ending due to the incredible design of the Porsche breaking system. Point is no matter how familiar, deserted or safe you think you are we live in a populated world of humans and animals and any one of them can come out of nowhere and change the course of lives. Do I still want to take my car to the limit of my ability? Every time I get in it but I will do my radical driving at the track from now on and enjoy the performance of my car on the street within the limits that are required for safety of myself and others. My opinion and not posted to criticize or influence the opinion of others.

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by onshore

I'm 62, just bought my first Porsche, a new to me 1999 Boxster, and immediately took it out on the most winding mountainous road I could find and pushed it to my limits. The car is so deceptively fast that I've found myself at over 100 mph on several occasions thinking I was only going 65. I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 through ....................................

I have to agree with you. Even on closed race course you are taking a risk, but that risk is Greatly reduced by the fact that it is being done in a controlled environment. Therefore making it a bit safer. It really is dumb to go flying 133mph down a public road regardless of the time of day or congestion. Not to say that I havn't done it. I have turned towards AutoX and Closed Circuit Courses for pushing the Boxster past legal freeway speed zones.

Also, back to your comment "I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 ............"

I am assuming you have PSM turned on when you tried this? It is fairly easy to get the back out with PSM turned off. I would not suggest trying at speed of 65 mph. I keep it off for lower speed autocross.

Originally Posted by 2K3_Boxster_S

I have to agree with you. Even on closed race course you are taking a risk, but that risk is Greatly reduced by the fact that it is being done in a controlled environment. Therefore making it a bit safer. It really is dumb to go flying 133mph down a public road regardless of the time of day or congestion. Not to say that I havn't done it. I have turned towards AutoX and Closed Circuit Courses for pushing the Boxster past legal freeway speed zones.

Also, back to your comment "I've tried, unsuccessfully, to break the rear end loose by going 65 ............"

I am assuming you have PSM turned on when you tried this? It is fairly easy to get the back out with PSM turned off. I would not suggest trying at speed of 65 mph. I keep it off for lower speed autocross.

My Box doesn't have PSM so I've been attributing it's traction to the PZero tires that are on it. The turn I mentioned also has a very wide hard packed dirt ramp next to where the car would slide into and not impact anything if it did break loose. I'm going to the SR Autocross this Saturday for the first time and expect it to be challenging enough to give the car, and more importantly myself, a test. I want to come away with a better idea of how to drive this great piece of machinery.