anyone intalled NHP full exhaust???

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

You'd have to be in my position to understand the flack that gets started when a discovery is made and shared.. Gathering the data scientifically without variables being imposed is hard enough, dealing with the people after it happens is unbearable.

Lets just say if you like to sound like you are going faster than you really are, then you'll love most of the after market systems.

Don't worry I completely understand now, didn't realize your are a salesman.
scared of losing business to competitors.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by 2K3_Boxster_S

Don't worry I completely understand now, didn't realize your are a salesman.
scared of losing business to competitors.

Way to go...............why not insult one of the most respected independent Porsche engine builders in the country.......................Jeez

[stephen wilson]

I'm sure Jake is very good, and I'm glad he's helped develop an IMS bearing retrofit.

Having said that, many of his posts ,on this as well as other forums, come across as very self-serving, designed to generate some buzz about his company.

I know which brand oil is best, but I can't tell you. I know exactly what's killing IMS bearings, within a certain RPM range, but I can't tell you that either. I could tell you the best header, but I'd have to kill you, etc. Why throw out teasers if you're not even going to hint at the answer.

I'm not trying to be a troll, it's just frustrating for people who want answers, not more questions.

Steve

[JFP in PA]

Rather than look at this as “viral marketing”, try running a business (or even a website) that develops a following, and then use Porsche’s logo; and then watch how fast their army of lawyers slaps a “cease and desist” order on you. And they are hardly the only ones that respond to every perceived transgression with litigation; we live in a litigious environment were small businesses have learned, often the hard way, to be less than forthcoming with opinions, even well supported and documented ones, less they spend a lot of time and money defending their statements. And even when you “win”, you are still out a lot of money………………….

Walk into my shop and ask me my thoughts on this cold air intake or that brand of oil, and I’ll pretty much tell you my thinking. Ask me to post the same thing online and you’ll get a more watered down (read “evasive”) reply………

[stephen wilson]

That sounds reasonable, but don't make a comment on a public forum that you can't answer there.

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by stephen wilson

That sounds reasonable, but don't make a comment on a public forum that you can't answer there.

If you stop and think about it, Jake did answer the question, but just not in absolute terms you seem to need:

"You'd have to be in my position to understand the flack that gets started when a discovery is made and shared.. Gathering the data scientifically without variables being imposed is hard enough, dealing with the people after it happens is unbearable.

Lets just say if you like to sound like you are going faster than you really are, then you'll love most of the after market systems."

I know how I read that, but your interpretation is up to you.............

[tnoice]

yea, this is fun, little bit of forum banter.

[2K3_Boxster_S]

UPDATE

I know a few people are following this thread. I'm on a plane tommorow. and have the Base line dyno scheduled for Friday July 3. Will post vid results. Then should be able to intall Full NHP following weekend.

results coming soon

thanks

[2K3_Boxster_S]

going to dyno tommorow. (pre-install numbers)

Unwrapped parts. Excellent quality. welds look great. good penetration. heatshields on the mid pipes and the mufflers. gaskets for everthing included.

[23109VC]

i'll be anxious to see the results!!!

you have an S - my car is only a 2.7L base - 217hp...so whatever gains you see - i'll have to expect less.... lets hope you see massive gains!!

are you doing any kind of ECU flash or just bolting on the system? is your system the entire thing - headers/midpipes/muffler?

[Jake Raby]

Your engine is rated at over 250 flywheel HP.. If his dyno is that stingy, it's inaccurate. These engines generally lose a max of 15% to the drive train as RWHP.

Find a dynojet, the numbers from unit to unit are near exacyting and the industry standards are set on dynojet units.. Thats why I bought one instead of a dyna pack..

I have engines tested in either of my engine dyno labs, install them into the car and generally see a 13-15% difference from flywheel HP to RWHP consistently.. Thats how I know our numbers are spot on.