11-03-2010, 05:29 AM
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Hope & Change With New Congress
With new Congress members coming on board and the Republicans taking back the House...what do you think will be the outcome. Also, the Feds are planning on buying $500 billion more in US Bonds...where in the hell are they getting the money.
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11-16-2010, 04:38 AM
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The Great Obama smack down
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11-03-2010, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Drew J
Personally, I'm hopeful. The best period in recent history for America was Clinton's presidency, when we had a democrat in the oval office, and a republican majority in Congress. Also, now the Repub's will actually have to be accountable for how the country is doing. They can no longer be the part of no, and just try to block everything the dem's do while ********************ing that the dems aren't doing enough to fix the country.
Hopefully the gross overuse of the filibuster is also at an end. I, for one, am sick to death of the hyper-partisanship of the republican party lately.
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The so called party of no was meaningless as the Socialists held Pres, House & Senate. The race to deficit spend (and blame Bush for deficit spending!!!), the interference in the private sector by firing executives and taking over companies and the coming gas tax, Value Added Tax, bankrupting of coal companies etc. has to be stopped or their will be no makers left for the takers to take from. Apparently this minor nuisance fact doesn't register with them for some reason. There is a clash of ideas: Go free market capitalism which built the country into the richest country in the world or to adopt the socialism which is destroying Europe and now spreading in South America. Bring on the Partisanship....better that than lock & load.
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11-03-2010, 08:08 AM
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I am somewhat optimistic at a better balance of power in Washington.
In California it was a Democratic (unions & trial lawyers) rout. I can already hear the trucks and moving vans rolling as the rest of the industrial companies here pack up and flee the state heading for Ariz, Nev., NM, Tex. This will be a historic job killer election for us. I guess I better learn to pick lettuce and strawberries.
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11-03-2010, 08:20 AM
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I wonder just how much can be done with the GOP only having control of the house and not the senate as well. On the other hand, I'm glad the GOP didn't sweep the elections on capitol hill (although they sure did sweep the governors races) because I truly feel they would have reversed everything done in the last two years, not done anything stellar in the process, and it would nearly guarantee Obama's second term.
Last night I turned to my wife and said, "Let's see what this latest batch of village idiots can do to screw up the country. I'm sure they have new and innovative ways to make things worse."
The biggest thing facing us right now is all the Bush tax cuts expiring at the end of the year. If Obama gets his way, we are all going to pay far more than our fair share come January 1 to live in this country, except for the welfare recipients (comprised of legal and illegal immigrants) who will get bonus handouts and free healthcare.
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11-03-2010, 09:05 AM
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Drew, thank you for giving Allen a target-rich environment.
I cannot image he and a couple of others on this board are now loaded for bear.
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11-03-2010, 09:44 AM
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mmmm bear.
"socialism is already here, and you like it. Or at least, I would assume you like most of the services provided in the narrative above. "
Unfortunately no, I do enjoy many of their uses of course. That does not inherently mean I like the way I must receive them.
Often times it is not that the service does not "work" but rather its quality compared to what it could be. A prime example: I went to the post office a couple of weeks ago to RMA some red seatbelt fabric for an upcoming project for the box. I sent it via postoffice.
Service guy: Do you want insurance?
me: is there not insurance already up to 100.00$?
service guy: no
me: what happens if the package does not make it to the destination... what will happen
service guy: nothing. you will have no recourse. you could however, purchase package tracking for X dollars.
me: will that do anything for me?
service guy: well, you will know if it gets there.
compare to UPS who has free tracking, insurance up to $100.oo and the like.
so it is not that we do not have the service or that we do not like them its just that it could be better.
PS. the postal service is currently a black hole for federal money. that is another issue all together.
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11-03-2010, 10:41 AM
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That is pretty interesting to be sure, however, I doubt we could pull it off. the US plays a vastly different role in the world compared to Norway.
to put it in perspective,
Norway population: 4.9 mil
New York population: 8.3 mil
our largest CITY is almost double the population of their whole country. Size matters in these things. Their model would not work here in the United States there is no one size fits all.
Culture, Population, Land Mass, History, Religions all play a role.
However, Defense spending should be that large. Our federal Government has very little powers granted to it by the constitution but that has been abused over the decades.
I am a Constitutionalist in my opinion and I personally think SS and medicare can go the way of the dodo. it is just more money our federal government has no right to take and give.
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11-03-2010, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobo1186
I personally think SS and medicare can go the way of the dodo. it is just more money our federal government has no right to take and give.
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I personally think that SS should have remained supplemental and not considered one's sole source of income in retirement (a view held by far too many ignorant Americans) by setting it up right in the first place. Had they told everyone that once they drained their government savings account they would receive no more money, we'd be in a far better place today.
I'm certainly not counting on getting any SS monies, even though I've been forced to give tens of thousands to it through the years.
And if I do get a check, I will dump every penny of it into a Porsche. The wife already told me I could do it if we kept saving for our retirement the way we've been doing
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11-03-2010, 11:09 AM
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Drew
Tone you rhetoric down.
Thank you.
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