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Old 01-15-2017, 09:14 AM   #1
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Charles, for the electrically challenged (me ) can you tell me the exact relay needed? Thanks!
Hi Bruce. I use these: uxcell 5pcs Blue PCB Mount DC 12V SPDT 5 Pin Mini Power Relay JQC-3F(T73) | eBay
Unfortunately, I didn't start adding these until after I did yours (it's standard practice now). I'll see if I can dig up wiring instructions, too.



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I gues as an idea it maybe would be nice to sell the projector set's with this relay in the future ?
Hahahahahaha!
What else you want with that?
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:02 AM   #2
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Hahahahahaha!
What else you want with that?
I have no idea how mouch exstra it wold be to make it work. I just expected the projector led's to work allitlebit longer than 6 weeks. For me it was more about design than having better light. Mine was quite bright and good with no burnt lenses.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:23 AM   #3
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Hi Bruce. I use these: uxcell 5pcs Blue PCB Mount DC 12V SPDT 5 Pin Mini Power Relay JQC-3F(T73) | eBay
Unfortunately, I didn't start adding these until after I did yours (it's standard practice now). I'll see if I can dig up wiring instructions, too.
Thanks Charles, I'm looking forward to the instructions
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Old 02-09-2017, 09:45 AM   #4
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Thanks Charles, I'm looking forward to the instructions
Sorry for the delay, Bruce.
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That's a failing LED. Nothing you can do except replace the projector bezel.

As I've said before, they need to be on a relay so that they are off when the HIDs are on. You can't have the HIDs and LED angel eyes on at the same time or this will happen sooner or later.
Heat + LED in operation = premature failure.
Soooo glad I had you do my lights and I have the relay that turns off the Angel Eye when the Projector is on. You were ahead of the curve on this one, it's been awhile since I had you build them and the Angel Eyes are still working perfect.
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Soooo glad I had you do my lights and I have the relay that turns off the Angel Eye when the Projector is on. You were ahead of the curve on this one, it's been awhile since I had you build them and the Angel Eyes are still working perfect.
Glad to hear it and nice to see you back around, buddy!
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If you want it to work correctly and pass inspection, you will also need a relay to switch between halogen and HID high beams as you cannot flash HIDs from an off state (daytime high beam flashing).

My point was/is that this kit that Fred offers is just that: a kit. It requires professional installation to ensure everything is done correctly and meets minimum local law requirements. Order some standard relays for the high beam functionality and some of the smaller relays that I posted above for the AEs so that this doesn't happen again.
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How does one acquire a set of these for their Box??
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Charles, the relay you linked to has 5 pins on it, I assume it will be easy to figure it out once they arrive? How are you connecting the wires to the relay? Soldering or a spade connector? Thanks for your help.
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Charles, the relay you linked to has 5 pins on it, I assume it will be easy to figure it out once they arrive? How are you connecting the wires to the relay? Soldering or a spade connector? Thanks for your help.
I solder the wires on. The relay has 2 pins on one side and 3 on the other. The 2 pins are the coil and are connected to the low beam (red and black, polarity doesn't matter). The 3 pins are the contacts. I'll have to look to see which is which and report back, but you could easily determine that with a multimeter or even a test light.
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I solder the wires on. The relay has 2 pins on one side and 3 on the other. The 2 pins are the coil and are connected to the low beam (red and black, polarity doesn't matter). The 3 pins are the contacts. I'll have to look to see which is which and report back, but you could easily determine that with a multimeter or even a test light.
Ok, thanks
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Any chance these are available again?
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Any chance these are available again?
Hi Josh,

I'm putting the shop back into operation right after Chinese New Year. However it is very unlikely that the new batch will be manufactured to accommodate LED Angel Eyes. If this is okay with you then I think I can slip you in the next batch (got 4 other fellas here waiting, with you 5 if you are in).

Let me know what you need and I'll get those ready for you hopefully before your autumn kicks in.
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Why are the angel eyes no longer an option?


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Hi Josh,

I'm putting the shop back into operation right after Chinese New Year. However it is very unlikely that the new batch will be manufactured to accommodate LED Angel Eyes. If this is okay with you then I think I can slip you in the next batch (got 4 other fellas here waiting, with you 5 if you are in).

Let me know what you need and I'll get those ready for you hopefully before your autumn kicks in.
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Why are the angel eyes no longer an option?
Because I'm Out of Stock

Seriously. Those angel eyes have somehow managed to upgrade themselves to a single point of failure (SPOF). In the sense that some fellas 'occasionally' buy these projectors simply because they have angel eyes. That is all fine, nothing wrong there. The problem comes if/when one or more AE fail. The product is therefore discredited. Hence the word 'single' in point of failure. And my responsibility is to quickly eliminate this - if you want to hear the real reason bud.

I already hear you say "but-but-but source better and engineer smarter", which is fair enough, however the truth is whether LED comes from China or Golden Country, kept cooled or not, they remain what they are, a risk. A risk which is not directly linked to the core functionality of the kit.

I'd like to focus on what these kits really are (i.e. the original concept) which was: "A quick and affordable way to modernize the look of your Porsche Boxster (or 911) while providing better light distribution over stock halogen". That is exactly what started the idea and I desperately want to go back to it. Hell, you even get a fully personalized laser script in the package lolll

Beside simplify the design, next step really is to find effective ways to make them available to everyone. To the guys with and without DIY experience. Whether this involve getting a custom BOSCH headlight-housing harness professionally designed, HD video productions of installation procedures, or both, this is what I'll need to work hard on instead. Not wasting any more time to find creative ways to make them look cool'er.

They are already super duper cool!
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I agree with axing the angel eyes.

The bottom line is that things fail and Fred has no control over manufacturers quality control, nor the running conditions that buyers of the kit put them through. They look cool, but have the potential to put a blemish on these beautiful projectors and Fred's hard work.
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It might be nice to retain the ae machined holes in the bezels.....if desired. Beautiful cooling vents...
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It might be nice to retain the ae machined holes in the bezels.....if desired. Beautiful cooling vents...
That's what I figured when I got the LED's. I figured if they died, I still like the look of the holes
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Yes I agree love the look of the holes with or without the angel eyes
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Looks great unlit



And of course lit

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