03-27-2020, 05:30 PM
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2001 RUF 3800S
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Uncertain what to do with my "broken" Boxster..
Long story short I have a 2001 Boxster S with 55k on it with a broken engine, " D chunk" in one of the cylinders. This happened in 2014, I had a medical situation that kept me out of commission since. But lately its been really bothering me the car sitting in my garage with no engine. I need to find a proper path to what to do.
Ive tried getting ideas from the Porsche Boxster 986 facebook group and a while ago I posted something about this situation but never got a good answer as what to do.
I want more power, and I want to stick with Porsche engines. No LS's or Subaru engines etc. I dont want to hear about anything else but Porsche.
I spoke with Jake Raby a while ago and was quoted $20k USD for a stage one performer engine upgrade. He says he can open it up to a 3.8 and claims 100hp gains over the 3.2 engine. I live in Ottawa, Canada so the logistics would be a pain im sure and costs would exceed well over $20k USD when all is said and done im sure.
Literally saw a 2002 911 TTS 6speed with 45k for sale the other day, next day it was gone. It had a minor accident with a rebuilt title but like $30k USD ready to go! So when I see stuff like that I wonder if $20k USD for an engine rebuild on a 986 is the right move. All I know is im fed up with seeing my car in the garage with no engine for almost 6 years. I need to figure out a plan of action.
So please someone with experience chime in. I want more power. I want a Porsche engine and I dont want to spend more than $10K USD. Id maybe spend the $20k USD if that means 450hp all motor. But thats wishful thinking...
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03-27-2020, 06:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Charleston
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Nitrous? $1500 never felt so fast.
Porsche isn't for cheap, bang for buck just doesn't compute.
Sell the roller and get a 911. That's what I'd do in your shoes.
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'98 PP13B powered "RX986"
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03-27-2020, 06:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Laval QC
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A quick look on ebay turned up lots of 996 engines for less than $7000 US. I didn't look closely but there should be some decent ones in there.
Or check with Byprdriver for his... see this thread
https://rennlist.com/forums/boxster-and-boxster-s-986-forum/1180517-help-on-diagnosis.html
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Arctic Silver 2000 Boxster S - bought with a broken engine, back on the road with the engine replaced
Green 2000 Boxster 5-speed and 1978 928 auto
1987 924S 5-speed (Sold) - Blue 2000 Boxster 5 spd (Sold)
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03-27-2020, 08:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bastrop, Tx
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Too bad you're not closer. I'd sell you the 3.4 out of my boxster. It has 277hp at the wheels but it's not enough for me. Sure at first it's fun, until a modern camry almost makes a fool of you. The M96 just isn't a power house no matter what you do to it. I can't remember anyone breaking the 450hp mark with a m96/m97. Maybe turbo'd, but they never seem to live a long life with a turbo on them. If you want real power you have to break the rules.
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03-28-2020, 03:55 AM
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1998 Boxster Silver/Red
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
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If you're going to keep the car... I'd go with BYProdriver's motor.
Yup.
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03-28-2020, 06:29 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Tucson AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter986
If you're going to keep the car... I'd go with BYProdriver's motor.
Yup.
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It's 3.6 liter, with all the goodies. Basically a Raby engine. He wants $15k for it. All in, including shipping, duties, and installation, you're looking at $20k. I don't know what you should do, 400 hp does require that something be done about the transmission, and the rest of the drivetrain. Fire breathing monsters DO require heavier duty components.:troll:
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2007 Toyota Highlander
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03-28-2020, 07:37 AM
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How mechanical are you? I see you got it to that point. Mine looked exactly the same. I sent the block halves to L&N to sleeve It's about $4500 and 2 months. You can reassemble with $1000 in special tools. Parts seal kit from Ebay $300 and a service manual PDF. I have a 99-02 copy you can have. Rod bearings are about $100 a set. Piston rings, Pistons, wrist pins come in L&N package. $45 Harbor freight engine stand, and a $119 jack-table, $100 for a jack and jack stands, which I'm guessing you already have since the motor is out.
I neglected to say you may a tune $1000 to 1500. There are several dozen folks on here that have done this with good results my self included.
Good Luck
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2003 Black 986. modified for Advanced level HPDE and open track days.
* 3.6L LN block, 06 heads, Carrillo H rods, IDP with 987 intake, Oil mods, LN IMS. * Spec II Clutch, 3.2L S Spec P-P FW. * D2 shocks, GT3 arms & and links, Spacers front and rear * Weight reduced, No carpet, AC deleted, Remote PS pump, PS pump deleted. Recaro Pole position seats, Brey crouse ext. 5 point harness, NHP sport exhaust
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03-28-2020, 07:27 AM
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Who's askin'?
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by violametallic-S-
I want more power. I want a Porsche engine and I dont want to spend more than $10K USD. Id maybe spend the $20k USD if that means 450hp all motor. But thats wishful thinking...
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If wishes were fishes.... well, you know the rest.
$10k won't get you there.
Others have mentioned byprovider's motor for sale. That's probably a great idea, since the build is documented and he knows what he's doing. But $15k is still a chunk ig change. He'll probably be unhappy for me suggesting this, but you might consider offering him something less than that, and see what he says. He's been trying to sell it for a long time, maybe he's motivated? Cash talks.
For my money, you have to be really, really attached to a car to spend $15k (it'll be more, trust me) on a car worth $12k. I've been there (hell, I'm in the same boat on my 986 even) but you have to be realistic: that money is gone, from an investment perspective. You'll never get it back out of the car.
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03-31-2020, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: New Jersey
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Mine's not a Raby engine but it is a 3.2 rebuilt as a 3.6 with LN Nickies. Since I have 2003 with a 3 chain motor, BYProdriver's engine wouldn't work for me. If it would have, I could have saved a lot of money, and TIME. Since you have a 2001 which is a 5 chain engine his will work in your car. If you want more power and want to be back on the road quickly, you should get in touch with him. His engine is ready to go and looks like a quality build.
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03-31-2020, 04:57 PM
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Who's askin'?
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Utah
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I've been salivating over an '03 996 3.6L X51.
Any reason that wouldn't fit in my '03 boxster S?
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03-31-2020, 07:23 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bastrop, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maytag
I've been salivating over an '03 996 3.6L X51.
Any reason that wouldn't fit in my '03 boxster S?
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Why limit yourself when you can have a 3.8. I believe both could be made to work easily in a 2003+ boxster
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04-01-2020, 05:55 AM
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Who's askin'?
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Location: Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itsnotanova
Why limit yourself when you can have a 3.8. I believe both could be made to work easily in a 2003+ boxster
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Well the part of a swap that scares me the most is the electronics. That's where I'm weakest. It occurs to me that an '03 3.6L might "talk" to my DME better than an much later 3.8L. ?? waddya know?
(by the way, I sent you a PM about the previous topic)
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04-07-2020, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maytag
Well the part of a swap that scares me the most is the electronics. That's where I'm weakest. It occurs to me that an '03 3.6L might "talk" to my DME better than an much later 3.8L. ?? waddya know?
(by the way, I sent you a PM about the previous topic)
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I'm by no means an electrical wizard, but swapping within generations is very simple. Just take the wiring harness off the boxster motor and put it on the 996 motor. The biggest hassle would be getting DME's programmed for the motor you're using. Your dealer sucks but I know lots of guys in Colorado that could program it.
(I keep my pm box full so people can't ask me for parts)
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04-07-2020, 05:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Asheville, NC
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Violametallic,
I may be able to help you, just sent you a PM.
Gary
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04-07-2020, 10:02 AM
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Certified Boxster Addict
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Los Angeles
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If the goal is a lot more power:
Swap in a 3.2 used engine, sell the Boxster, and buy a 996TT.
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04-07-2020, 11:01 PM
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Track rat
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern ID
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Quote:
Originally Posted by violametallic-S-
Long story short I have a 2001 Boxster S with 55k on it with a broken engine, " D chunk" in one of the cylinders. This happened in 2014, I had a medical situation that kept me out of commission since. But lately its been really bothering me the car sitting in my garage with no engine. I need to find a proper path to what to do.
Ive tried getting ideas from the Porsche Boxster 986 facebook group and a while ago I posted something about this situation but never got a good answer as what to do.
I want more power, and I want to stick with Porsche engines. No LS's or Subaru engines etc. I dont want to hear about anything else but Porsche.
I spoke with Jake Raby a while ago and was quoted $20k USD for a stage one performer engine upgrade. He says he can open it up to a 3.8 and claims 100hp gains over the 3.2 engine. I live in Ottawa, Canada so the logistics would be a pain im sure and costs would exceed well over $20k USD when all is said and done im sure.
Literally saw a 2002 911 TTS 6speed with 45k for sale the other day, next day it was gone. It had a minor accident with a rebuilt title but like $30k USD ready to go! So when I see stuff like that I wonder if $20k USD for an engine rebuild on a 986 is the right move. All I know is im fed up with seeing my car in the garage with no engine for almost 6 years. I need to figure out a plan of action.
So please someone with experience chime in. I want more power. I want a Porsche engine and I dont want to spend more than $10K USD. Id maybe spend the $20k USD if that means 450hp all motor. But thats wishful thinking...

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You just won't like the price of putting a 450hp motor in your Boxster. Best fastest, most direct solution: Sell your car as a roller and find a nice 996TT. Problem solved as quickly and directly as possible. Anything else and you will be fiddling with the same car for another 6 years and still be disappointed. Time to punt.
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04-07-2020, 11:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: LB, Germany
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Dump the 986.
But why a 996 TT? 997 TT prices seem to get closer to the 996 TT. At least over here in Germany.
Also Panamera Turbos seems to be also in the price range and have 500 HP. OK, it's a much bigger car and it's not a B6. But it's a Porsche.
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