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Old 01-17-2020, 12:41 PM   #1
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Man this is my new favorite forum.

You guys are a riot!
Oh, you have no idea .....
Wait till piper and starter986 show up. That'll send some of the rest of us running for the hills. HAHA

fwiw: im not a Porsche guy. Never cared for them. I'm a track guy, having raced superbikes for many Years. But since being disappointed with a 911 in the '8o's, I've always simply dismissed porsches as poser cars.
Then I drove a 986 boxster. I drove it cuz I was looking for something euro, convert, manual trans, no black/ grey/ silver, etc, and under $10k so my wife wouldn't notice. Hehe.
I found a different car on the internet, shipped, taxed, etc. for under $8k. It's an '03 S with 147k. That was 2 years ago.

Anyway: two things have made me stay in the porche world: 1- the boxster really likes the racetrack. As track tools go, it ticks allot of boxes. And 2- the community. With a few exceptions, the Porsche community is much better than most enthusiast- car communities. My local pca chapter couldn't care less that I showed up in a $8k car..... they just love porsches.
Try showing up at a Ferrari event in a $50k 348..... see what happens. (Not the same experience)

So yes.... this should be your new favorite online home.

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Oh, you have no idea .....
Wait till piper and starter986 show up. That'll send some of the rest of us running for the hills. HAHA
Just got home... picked up a nice front spoiler lip out in Rancho Cucamonga. Some light sanding... primer... gloss black... clear... it's going to look boss.

I'd chime in, to live up to your expectations... but it's 523P, Pacific. So... it long after 4A when I'm at my best.

Have a great evening, Maytag!
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:36 PM   #3
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Just got home... picked up a nice front spoiler lip out in Rancho Cucamonga. Some light sanding... primer... gloss black... clear... it's going to look boss.



I'd chime in, to live up to your expectations... but it's 523P, Pacific. So... it long after 4A when I'm at my best.



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Ha! Right back acha!

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Sorry Partical Wave D ICK I guess I will join alot of people and just not participate.
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I've never personally drivin an S, but I just don't see 50hp(?) being that big of a difference. I know bigger brakes and 6 speed all seem appealing, but not for the price tag associated with it.


I can say that the tiptronic is a very aggravating trans. Its like you slam the peddle down and the thing has to make up its mind whether or not it wants to downshift. Then when it has made up its mind (time to go fast) it doesn't want to act like a daily driver; it just wants to stay at high rpm.

Maybe I just don't see eye to eye with the tip and others do?

I can say I looked into a 5 speed swap before I got my current car and it looked like an expensive and labor intensive swap. So I just ignored all tip cars I saw for sale. Can't really comment on the difficulty of the swap because I never tried it.
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Old 01-17-2020, 05:43 PM   #6
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Sorry Partical Wave D ICK I guess I will join alot of people and just not participate.
Don't let anyone shut you out, nicecar. We welcome ALL input. Everyone's experience is different and everyone is welcome to share it.

Maytag, nice sage advice in post #6, BTW.

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Old 01-17-2020, 06:01 PM   #7
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Sorry Partical Wave D ICK I guess I will join alot of people and just not participate.
Are you sure he wasn't just playin' witch'ya? 'cuz to me, lookin' in at the post, I chuckled and thought he was having some fun with ya. I didn;t think he was being rude.
But I dunno... maybe y'all have some "history" that makes you feel otherwise.

I think of PW as one of the good guys... that may influence how I read his posts.

as opposed to the way I read posts from Piper.... HAHAHAHA. (Just kiddin' dood.... )
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You received some good advice from members who know what they are talking about

I've spent time on repairs, upgrades and maintenance over the years, but the only way I think I could make a project Boxster driveable is to enlist the help of: https://garagesquad.tv/submission-form/

I could see it now. I'd have the shell of a Boxster on one side of my garage and a pallet with an engine on the other. Then a miracle would occur and I'd be driving the car out of my garage to the cheers of my friends and family.
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Old 01-17-2020, 05:35 PM   #9
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What is your recommendation to achieve the best possible performing, working Boxster for the money
Both options are feasible and okay imo, if you can manage it and have the passion. Although and as others confirmed; its all about money(and tax lol) those pcars lets be realistic on that front. RE the automatic-to-manual conversion idea, let me try to influence your decision and see if I can save you $4k in parts and $40k in time. Meet the Tipflippy:



ps: About the "best possible performing..." question well that's the easy and cheap; just squeeze your lips really really tight together and exhale at high velocity. With a bit of practice you'll end up mimicking the sound of an F1 car all in sync with those paddles' clicks wroom wroom!
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Hey, I’m looking at a white Boxster
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But thanks again for everyone commenting here. I appreciate it, and even the side comments not directly related to my OP I appreciate because it is funny and there is still stuff to learn from it :P

See you guys on the track soon
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But thanks again for everyone commenting here. I appreciate it, and even the side comments not directly related to my OP I appreciate because it is funny and there is still stuff to learn from it :P

See you guys on the track soon
Best wishes, Russdawg! Just remember what others have hinted: If you want a manual S, don't buy a Tiptronic Base. Can you put a 3.2 with manual in a tipronic base? Sure you can. But there's a hell of a lot more parts you'll need to get in addition to the engine and tranny. Just find a boxter S that needs work.

Keep us posted, whatever you decide to do!

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Old 01-18-2020, 07:35 AM   #13
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Ok..... so...... this comment just changed everything, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)
If you mentioned before that you planned to track it I missed it.

I track mine..... and that's where I've incurred costs that can't be considered into the regular maintenance / repair calculator. I've broken stuff.... a lot of stuff, at the track. It's been expensive. TOO expensive. But to be very clear: I'm not just driving around out there. I push it hard, I use the tiger teeth at apex or corner exits sometimes, and I find redline regularly. I'm going to work this season on doing LESS of that.... because it's expensive. Haha

And to keep the record clear in spite of recent rants: I think the Porsche boxster IS more difficult, and costly, to own, maintain, and to DIY on, than just about any other car. (This is car #74 for me, or#76 or something, I forget)

Most (or many) seem to disagree with me. Im not at all sure why mr. 7-car has lumped me as the direction of his current tantrum, because he and I actually agree that this car IS, and WILL BE more expensive to own and maintain than most. And I've personally spent MUCH, MUCH more than $2k/yr in the 2 years I've owned it. Much more. But I attribute MOST of that to track breakage and upgrades / mods for the track.

Now what I HAVE said, is that if you don't DIY then don't buy a 20 yr-old Porsche. And I've implied (or maybe actually stated) that if you DIY, the car can be affordable.

And yes.... I post from my phone.... because when I'm sitting at a computer it's because I'm working. Again..... I'm not at all sure why that's offensive to anyone. (Well.... maybe because sometimes when I post from my phone I do it from the porcelain throne! ::gasp:: Haha)

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(Well.... maybe because sometimes when I post from my phone I do it from the porcelain throne! ::gasp:: Haha)

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Oh GOD! Now I have to get the image of Uncle Fester on the throne out of my head! AAAACCCKKK!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... that's perfect.

And Paulofto, we Utahn's understand you canuks; the image below (was helping my daughter sell her car) was about as pretty a day as we get here for 4 months of the year. hahaha
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... that's perfect.

And Paulofto, we Utahn's understand you canuks; the image below (was helping my daughter sell her car) was about as pretty a day as we get here for 4 months of the year. hahaha
This is how you show off how a car's ability in the snow.

This is a pic I took for a CL sales ad. Car sold.


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Ok..... so...... this comment just changed everything, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)
If you mentioned before that you planned to track it I missed it.

I track mine..... and that's where I've incurred costs that can't be considered into the regular maintenance / repair calculator. I've broken stuff.... a lot of stuff, at the track. It's been expensive. TOO expensive. But to be very clear: I'm not just driving around out there. I push it hard, I use the tiger teeth at apex or corner exits sometimes, and I find redline regularly. I'm going to work this season on doing LESS of that.... because it's expensive. Haha

And to keep the record clear in spite of recent rants: I think the Porsche boxster IS more difficult, and costly, to own, maintain, and to DIY on, than just about any other car. (This is car #74 for me, or#76 or something, I forget)

Most (or many) seem to disagree with me. Im not at all sure why mr. 7-car has lumped me as the direction of his current tantrum, because he and I actually agree that this car IS, and WILL BE more expensive to own and maintain than most. And I've personally spent MUCH, MUCH more than $2k/yr in the 2 years I've owned it. Much more. But I attribute MOST of that to track breakage and upgrades / mods for the track.

Now what I HAVE said, is that if you don't DIY then don't buy a 20 yr-old Porsche. And I've implied (or maybe actually stated) that if you DIY, the car can be affordable.

And yes.... I post from my phone.... because when I'm sitting at a computer it's because I'm working. Again..... I'm not at all sure why that's offensive to anyone. (Well.... maybe because sometimes when I post from my phone I do it from the porcelain throne! ::gasp:: Haha)

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It was sort of a joke, sort of not.

I’ve always dreamed of having a cool track/rally car. Dual usage obviously. So I can’t be ripping out the HVAC for even more weight loss.

It’s a goal that I’ve set for after I’ve purchased the Boxster and settled it down to a point that maintenance is now just oil changes and replacing things that wear out naturally over time. I would likely take driving classes in parallel with this time, and then combine the two once done. Well maintained Boxster, and newfound driving skills!

If there’s an option for having two, one for both situations, that may be where I achieve my true, swapped track car from a roller
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I had a question for anyone not too angry and still following this thread.

Are there any good fuel efficiency mods that anyone is aware of?

Obviously the Boxster and even more, the Boxster S, are not too great at fuel Efficiency, although not all that worse than the 330i I currently drive.

Is there anything that can be done other than weight reduction to improve my street mpg?

My limited knowledge brings me to believe that higher performance = better fuel efficiency, but I could be wrong. Would something that is proven to give hp gains like an Underdrive Pulley help with fuel efficiency?

I can start a different thread if need be.

But what are your thoughts?
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I had a question for anyone not too angry and still following this thread.

Are there any good fuel efficiency mods that anyone is aware of?

Obviously the Boxster and even more, the Boxster S, are not too great at fuel Efficiency, although not all that worse than the 330i I currently drive.

Is there anything that can be done other than weight reduction to improve my street mpg?

My limited knowledge brings me to believe that higher performance = better fuel efficiency, but I could be wrong. Would something that is proven to give hp gains like an Underdrive Pulley help with fuel efficiency?

I can start a different thread if need be.

But what are your thoughts?
IMO Performance doesn't necessarily mean better fuel efficiency. The biggest thing that effects fuel economy is driving habits. If you want fuel economy, imagine there's a raw egg between your foot and the gas pedal. Press down gently as not to break it. Using your brakes is wasting fuel. Look far enough ahead so you can coast to your stops and use the brakes as little as possible. Shift points make a difference too.

Now, if you want to race, that's a different story altogether.
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Here is the view from my dining room this morning. My drive way is between the 2 poles just to the right. It has warmed up to a balmy -25 C (-13 F) with the windchill from a flash freezing -40 C (also -40 F) from a day or two ago. Obviously NOT Boxster weather. Time to fire up the snow blower (which i also maintain myself LOL)

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