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Old 05-10-2016, 01:21 PM   #1
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I'm so glad that daily life in Canada doesn't involve the worry of defending oneself. I don't envy you guys.


You have a government.

Therefore you have something you may possibly need to defend yourself from.
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You have a government.

Therefore you have something you may possibly need to defend yourself from.
Um, not likely with a gun.....that's what a 'vote' is for.

You thinking of rising up against your government with a weapon??

We have a problem with the government, we elect a new one. Majority rules. If you don't like it, move. Then again, I think our system up North has more checks/balances and the Prime Minister does not have nearly the same power as your President does.
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Um, not likely with a gun.....that's what a 'vote' is for.

You thinking of rising up against your government with a weapon??

We have a problem with the government, we elect a new one. Majority rules. If you don't like it, move. Then again, I think our system up North has more checks/balances and the Prime Minister does not have nearly the same power as your President does.
The term "COME AND TAKE IT" comes to mind....

And "WILL NOT COMPLY".
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Old 05-10-2016, 02:50 PM   #4
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Um, not likely with a gun.....that's what a 'vote' is for.



You thinking of rising up against your government with a weapon??



We have a problem with the government, we elect a new one. Majority rules. If you don't like it, move. Then again, I think our system up North has more checks/balances and the Prime Minister does not have nearly the same power as your President does.


For the time being the constitution and court system defends my rights and that's part of why I don't own a gun and if I acquire one in the next 10 years or so is give or take.

But you have to be careful who you elect because that person could do away with those checks and balances. Not that I think it'll happen in my life time or that I want to have it happen, but I like to have the right to a gun to defend myself against the government above all else. If I have a problem with a criminal id rather the police deal with it, but what if some day the police become a gastapo. We reinstate the draft. Eminent domaine becomes a bigger problem then it already is. Or they keep knocking down people's doors over land rovers.

http://jalopnik.com/the-feds-just-seized-40-land-rovers-imported-to-the-u-s-1605985758

For now the constitution protects the rights of the individual but with increasingly Authoritarian candidates being pushed for by voters left and right be them socialist or borderline Facist, Amongst increasing use of executive order from our current president and likely next. There may come a day that the idea of a milita isn't too crazy after all.

It's like an airbag in a car, heavy and useless and shouldn't ever be needed. But it's nice to have if God forbid you do need it.
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Lordy......Lore

I just wanted some ideas on places...especially if I forgot and left the top down for 30 minutes or so. We can ll debate the rights and cause and effect till we turn Lapis in the face. I love firearms , always have....I also love Engines (Car, plane miniature model), tools etc. Guns are what you make of them, if you want to go to see a different side of firearms go to Camp Perry and watch the Nationals. People have been killing each other since there have two or more of us....

I appreciate all your input on this.

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For the time being the constitution and court system defends my rights and that's part of why I don't own a gun and if I acquire one in the next 10 years or so is give or take.

But you have to be careful who you elect because that person could do away with those checks and balances. Not that I think it'll happen in my life time or that I want to have it happen, but I like to have the right to a gun to defend myself against the government above all else. If I have a problem with a criminal id rather the police deal with it, but what if some day the police become a gastapo. We reinstate the draft. Eminent domaine becomes a bigger problem then it already is. Or they keep knocking down people's doors over land rovers.

The Feds Just Seized 40 Land Rovers Imported To The U.S.

For now the constitution protects the rights of the individual but with increasingly Authoritarian candidates being pushed for by voters left and right be them socialist or borderline Facist, Amongst increasing use of executive order from our current president and likely next. There may come a day that the idea of a milita isn't too crazy after all.

It's like an airbag in a car, heavy and useless and shouldn't ever be needed. But it's nice to have if God forbid you do need it.
The challenge is if things get that bad, it's too late. They will have disarmed you all first.
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OK you got a rise out of on this one

No offense to our friends from the North or anywhere.....but;

The South Will Never Be Disarmed ...we might burn...but trust me from someone who has lived here almost 60 years....It will never happen here
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... Or they keep knocking down people's doors over land rovers.

The Feds Just Seized 40 Land Rovers Imported To The U.S.
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The biggest threat to the national security of the U.S. is climate change. Those old vehicles, it seems, contribute to it disproportionately. I'm comforted that Federal law enforcement has their priorities straight.
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The biggest threat to the national security of the U.S. is climate change. Those old vehicles, it seems, contribute to it disproportionately. I'm comforted that Federal law enforcement has their priorities straight.


http://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars-in-the-world/8182

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/07/25/us-department-defence-one-worlds-biggest-polluters-259456.html

Pretty sure they could regulate shipping pollution and check how much they pollute themselves in the process of overthrowing dictators on the other side of the world. Rather then using tax dollars to beat down the door of a Land Rover enthusiast because his car is identical to a model 15 years old, but his is 14 years old, a car that farts out less pollution than the heard of cattle he drives by every once in a while.
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