A place for my piece

[peterbrown77]

Originally Posted by Joe B

+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. It doesn't sound like having a gun in his car would have kept peterbrown77 from getting robbed. It's kind of hard to get your gun out when someone's already pointing one at you.

No, a gun in the console would not have helped. However, if I'd had it on me it would have as I had time. I went out the driver's door and he had to back out the passenger side. So I was just standing there for a good 5-10 seconds just waiting on him. It's easy for the armchair gun control experts to chime in with their statistics because they haven't faced a criminal with a gun in his hand at 11:30 pm in November. Once you've been there, believe me - you'll be armed.

As for the police, well - I sat in the station house all night waiting on a detective. The next day, I was driving to DMV to replace my driver's license and I dropped my Bluetooth earpiece. As I reached under the passenger seat to retrieve it, wanna guess what I found?

The gunman's college ID. With photo.

So I scanned it and emailed it to the detective (this happened in Providence, about 90 minutes away).

Want to know what the police did with this piece of iron-clad evidence? Not a damn thing. I never heard about it or from them again.

Next time, I'll take my chances with my 9mm - and so will he.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

... It's easy for the armchair gun control experts to chime in with their statistics because they haven't faced a criminal with a gun in his hand at 11:30 pm in November. Once you've been there, believe me - you'll be armed...

Alternatively, I think it may be said that it's also easy for the "armed" to believe that they will always hit their marks in said situation or otherwise, deter criminal acts from going down, right? They Han Solo, back when it meant something to Han Solo... I mean, sure, I'm thankful for never being in that scenario and can't comment on what I'd do whether armed or not, but I have witnessed people cut in line. In my mind, I'm pretty damn righteous. I'm a hero and everyone also in my line, has my back. They tell their children of this day. There are articles written about that confrontation. A government holiday is created. I'm on television answering questions, accepting awards, having little babies named "cfos" all over the place. I no longer pay taxes. I'm allowed to contribute to a Roth, again. I sell my signature for Shatner money. Right?

And then I wake up and I'm posting another nonsense post in a nonsense forum wondering if anyone else saw Rushmore and said that line when they see whatshisface in the commercial with Alec Baldwin. Because, someone out there agrees with me right? THAT is why I post. For some stranger out there in the serious interwebz... cares. Just don't let it be BigJake. I have higher expectations.

Ok... I'm going back to thinking deep thoughts and making fun of other friends and acquaintances on FB about more nonsense and GoT. Maybe Penny Dreadful, too. Oh yeah, also need to have a question answered about some plot holes in Civil War. I mean, REALLY!?!?! REALLY!?!?!

[Jamesp]

Sheople, You are warned to stop reading this now. It is not politically correct, you won't like it and it will upset you. Those who govern you or otherwise prey upon you would not approve. It stinks of everyone being responsible for themselves which is completely unacceptable.

For those who stink (particularly you Timco). There is room in the center console for a reasonably sized handgun. This is a Glock .40 Gen 4 with ample room around it. What is needed is a spring loaded door and mechanism to instantly present the gun.

[Pdwight]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Sheople, You are warned to stop reading this now. It is not politically correct, you won't like it and it will upset you. Those who govern you or otherwise prey upon you would not approve. It stinks of everyone being responsible for themselves which is completely unacceptable.

For those who stink (particularly you Timco). There is room in the center console for a reasonably sized handgun. This is a Glock .40 Gen 4 with ample room around it. What is needed is a spring loaded door and mechanism to instantly present the gun.

That would be so awesome, like a CD Tray with the pistol on it

[luckyed7711]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Sheople, You are warned to stop reading this now. It is not politically correct, you won't like it and it will upset you. Those who govern you or otherwise prey upon you would not approve. It stinks of everyone being responsible for themselves which is completely unacceptable.

For those who stink (particularly you Timco). There is room in the center console for a reasonably sized handgun. This is a Glock .40 Gen 4 with ample room around it. What is needed is a spring loaded door and mechanism to instantly present the gun.

I like this idea also. Some kind of spring loaded door to that section that required a secret slide or something to activate.

Is that the compact model 27? I've got the 23 with a slightly longer barrel.


Replying to the original post: disguising the "pizza oven" storage behind the seats is not a bad idea, unless the thief knew about the Porsche lay out

[Pdwight]

The thief broke the locked console and ransacked the inside including door storage area....never touched the Pizza Oven

[peterbrown77]

Originally Posted by cfos

Alternatively, I think it may be said that it's also easy for the "armed" to believe that they will always hit their marks in said situation or otherwise, deter criminal acts from going down, right? They Han Solo, back when it meant something to Han Solo... I mean, sure, I'm thankful for never being in that scenario and can't comment on what I'd do whether armed or not, but I have witnessed people cut in line. In my mind, I'm pretty damn righteous. I'm a hero and everyone also in my line, has my back. They tell their children of this day. There are articles written about that confrontation. A government holiday is created. I'm on television answering questions, accepting awards, having little babies named "cfos" all over the place. I no longer pay taxes. I'm allowed to contribute to a Roth, again. I sell my signature for Shatner money. Right? .....!

So you're implying I'd shoot someone who cut in line in front of my if I have my gun with me? F you. Do you know how difficult it is to get a CC permit? You show me where someone with a licensed firearm and permit ever did something like that. Your stupid analogy is just that - stupid.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

So you're implying I'd shoot someone who cut in line in front of my if I have my gun with me? F you. Do you know how difficult it is to get a CC permit? You show me where someone with a licensed firearm and permit ever did something like that. Your stupid analogy is just that - stupid.

No, I didn't say that at all. You did.

All I said, is that we all have conceptions of "what" would happen in ALL situations. And, unlike real life where people make mistakes or accidents happen, these instances NEVER occur in those situations where, you know, we tell others how "we" would handle ourselves and how criminals will just poop their pants at your righteousness and (implied) superior skills. That's also why I never read about how police officers get shot or killed by criminals, right? I mean they open carry, right? No one is every able to Han Solo them, right? They also get their man and justice is always served in the courts.

Surely, you didn't pull out a gun and shoot somebody that cut in line, but undoubtedly, I am CERTAIN, you made that person get out of line because you are CERTAINLY righteous and know what's best for everyone - sorta like our resident financial genius, and protector of spending on parts, ParticleWave (who can retire at 37). Oh, by the way, yes I do have a CC permit. It was really quite easy. Paid some $40 or so dollars. Sat in a class. Went outside. Took a picture. Done and done. Just cuz you are a Nutmegger, doesn't mean that other states are so strict.

[peterbrown77]

Originally Posted by cfos

No, I didn't say that at all. You did.

All I said, is that we all have conceptions of "what" would happen in ALL situations. And, unlike real life where people make mistakes or accidents happen, these instances NEVER occur in those situations where, you know, we tell others how "we" would handle ourselves and how criminals will just poop their pants at your righteousness and (implied) superior skills. That's also why I never read about how police officers get shot or killed by criminals, right? I mean they open carry, right? No one is every able to Han Solo them, right? They also get their man and justice is always served in the courts.

Surely, you didn't pull out a gun and shoot somebody that cut in line, but undoubtedly, I am CERTAIN, you made that person get out of line because you are CERTAINLY righteous and know what's best for everyone - sorta like our resident financial genius, and protector of spending on parts, ParticleWave (who can retire at 37). Oh, by the way, yes I do have a CC permit. It was really quite easy. Paid some $40 or so dollars. Sat in a class. Went outside. Took a picture. Done and done. Just cuz you are a Nutmegger, doesn't mean that other states are so strict.

So, again - show me an actual occurrence. Or you can't? And I wouldn't make the criminal poop his pants, I'd empty the clip. It's not a competition to see who has the biggest dick, it's life and death. Talk about being righteous? The stupidity flows from you like a river.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

So, again - show me an actual occurrence. Or you can't? And I wouldn't make the criminal poop his pants, I'd empty the clip. It's not a competition to see who has the biggest dick, it's life and death. Talk about being righteous? The stupidity flows from you like a river.

Is this recent enough for you Petey?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/03/he-thought-he-could-help-concealed-carry-gun-wielder-intervenes-in-domestic-dispute-and-is-shot-dead/

[Giller]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

So, again - show me an actual occurrence. Or you can't? And I wouldn't make the criminal poop his pants, I'd empty the clip. It's not a competition to see who has the biggest dick, it's life and death. Talk about being righteous? The stupidity flows from you like a river.

You'd empty the clip? And potentially hit innocent bystanders, or damage others property, as it's highly unlikely you would hit your target 100% of the time with your adrenaline going and heart pounding.....

I'd hate to be standing anywhere near you at that time.

I'd still rather give him my wallet and spend a few minutes on the phone cancelling my credit cards than spending potentially hours and hours at the police station or hospital or worse....lots and lots of time at the morgue.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

So you're implying I'd shoot someone who cut in line in front of my if I have my gun with me? F you. Do you know how difficult it is to get a CC permit? You show me where someone with a licensed firearm and permit ever did something like that. Your stupid analogy is just that - stupid.

Here you go, Petey.

VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

[pilut2]

I'm so glad that daily life in Canada doesn't involve the worry of defending oneself. I don't envy you guys.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by pilut2

I'm so glad that daily life in Canada doesn't involve the worry of defending oneself. I don't envy you guys.

You have a government.

Therefore you have something you may possibly need to defend yourself from.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

You have a government.

Therefore you have something you may possibly need to defend yourself from.

Um, not likely with a gun.....that's what a 'vote' is for.

You thinking of rising up against your government with a weapon??

We have a problem with the government, we elect a new one. Majority rules. If you don't like it, move. Then again, I think our system up North has more checks/balances and the Prime Minister does not have nearly the same power as your President does.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by peterbrown77

So you're implying I'd shoot someone who cut in line in front of my if I have my gun with me? F you. Do you know how difficult it is to get a CC permit? You show me where someone with a licensed firearm and permit ever did something like that. Your stupid analogy is just that - stupid.

AAAANNNNDDDD speaking of stupid, with apologies to Timco and others, would you also burn and bleach the bodies when self-defending and emptying your clip?

Goose Creek resident who shot, burned, buried men granted bail - Charleston Scene

This case is intriguing. I mean, I can't imagine what the cost of the cab fare was. Yeah, yeah, I get that we don't know if this guy had a permit, so please disregard this thread since we all about the validity up in hereeeeeeee!

[Timco]

Originally Posted by cfos

AAAANNNNDDDD speaking of stupid, with apologies to Timco and others, would you also burn and bleach the bodies when self-defending and emptying your clip?

Goose Creek resident who shot, burned, buried men granted bail - Charleston Scene

This case is intriguing. I mean, I can't imagine what the cost of the cab fare was. Yeah, yeah, I get that we don't know if this guy had a permit, so please disregard this thread since we all about the validity up in hereeeeeeee!

First, it's a mag. Pistols use a magazine. We've been over this.

Second, I may need a second shot, but I'm certain the first shot will be on target. No need to dump the mag.

Third, you can find as many crazy stories on the web as you want to find. Doesn't make me any less responsible. Heck, I saw a show last night about a Russian prisoner that killed, cooked and ate his buddy, then gave some of the meat to his friends. I don't think he even owned a gun....

[cfos]

Originally Posted by Timco

First, it's a mag. Pistols use a magazine. We've been over this.

Second, I may need a second shot, but I'm certain the first shot will be on target. No need to dump the mag.

Third, you can find as many crazy stories on the web as you want to find. Doesn't make me any less responsible. Heck, I saw a show last night about a Russian prisoner that killed, cooked and ate his buddy, then gave some of the meat to his friends. I don't think he even owned a gun....

Yes, I know that - hence I said "with apologies to Timco and others" - I was doing my best to speak to the post and use like language as Petey... so he would understand (and possibly reply as this thread has been entertaining, especially so now that particlewave seems to have gone full potato and left...?). Had this been a movie, or I really put effort into my post, I would have given you the Rickey Bobby, "With all due respect..."

Although, this does raise an interesting question and, with all due respect:

You (and others) seem to feel fine with C&C and carrying in the car... ok. Can't say I'm really bothered by what you and others do. Hasn't impacted my life in any way, and I hope that my life will continue to be conflict free. Yet, didn't we see a post or thread some time ago about you not locking your door to the house? Getting confronted by someone or something during the wee hours of the morn? Having this been, not the first time...? I guess, I'm just confused. You (others) feel you need a gun with you, fine. But, you don't feel obligated to lock your house? That I don't get. I mean, if it is purely a security thing... with the gun toting... why isn't the door locked? Do the other carrying members feel the same way? Do they not lock their house? Is this something that's forgotten, or somehow less important than being out in the wild and possible piece-less?

Sure, maybe you forgot (this one time) and my recall may not be 100%, but were I to feel certain that my life is better when carrying, I would think I would make damn sure my house was also locked every night (yah never know when the "Elders" or "sisters" may come a-knockin' with their backpacks and bicycles... and convert yah with their promises of your own planet in the afterlife Or worse yet, the "solar" dealers or exterminators... I'll be honest, I can't count how many times I'm getting knocks on the door by people claiming they did the lawn care for this house for the previous owner. Guy had a payroll of 14 different companies if I believe what they tell me!). Alarmed, too. Hell, I can't count (yes, I like to count) the times I've circled back around to make sure the garage was closed and it didn't "pop" up for some electrical reason. That may be me, though. What do the other pro-carriers think? Am I the only one that is confused by this math?

[Timco]

Originally Posted by cfos

Yes, I know that - hence I said "with apologies to Timco and others" - I was doing my best to speak to the post and use like language as Petey... so he would understand (and possibly reply as this thread has been entertaining, especially so now that particlewave seems to have gone full potato and left...?). Had this been a movie, or I really put effort into my post, I would have given you the Rickey Bobby, "With all due respect..."

Although, this does raise an interesting question and, with all due respect:

You (and others) seem to feel fine with C&C and carrying in the car... ok. Can't say I'm really bothered by what you and others do. Hasn't impacted my life in any way, and I hope that my life will continue to be conflict free. Yet, didn't we see a post or thread some time ago about you not locking your door to the house? Getting confronted by someone or something during the wee hours of the morn? Having this been, not the first time...? I guess, I'm just confused. You (others) feel you need a gun with you, fine. But, you don't feel obligated to lock your house? That I don't get. I mean, if it is purely a security thing... with the gun toting... why isn't the door locked? Do the other carrying members feel the same way? Do they not lock their house? Is this something that's forgotten, or somehow less important than being out in the wild and possible piece-less?

Sure, maybe you forgot (this one time) and my recall may not be 100%, but were I to feel certain that my life is better when carrying, I would think I would make damn sure my house was also locked every night (yah never know when the "Elders" or "sisters" may come a-knockin' with their backpacks and bicycles... and convert yah with their promises of your own planet in the afterlife Or worse yet, the "solar" dealers or exterminators... I'll be honest, I can't count how many times I'm getting knocks on the door by people claiming they did the lawn care for this house for the previous owner. Guy had a payroll of 14 different companies if I believe what they tell me!). Alarmed, too. Hell, I can't count (yes, I like to count) the times I've circled back around to make sure the garage was closed and it didn't "pop" up for some electrical reason. That may be me, though. What do the other pro-carriers think? Am I the only one that is confused by this math?

[CHRISP357]

Although, this does raise an interesting question and, with all due respect:

You (and others) seem to feel fine with C&C and carrying in the car... ok. Can't say I'm really bothered by what you and others do. Hasn't impacted my life in any way, and I hope that my life will continue to be conflict free. Yet, didn't we see a post or thread some time ago about you not locking your door to the house? Getting confronted by someone or something during the wee hours of the morn? Having this been, not the first time...? I guess, I'm just confused. You (others) feel you need a gun with you, fine. But, you don't feel obligated to lock your house? That I don't get. I mean, if it is purely a security thing... with the gun toting... why isn't the door locked? Do the other carrying members feel the same way? Do they not lock their house? Is this something that's forgotten, or somehow less important than being out in the wild and possible piece-less?

Sure, maybe you forgot (this one time) and my recall may not be 100%, but were I to feel certain that my life is better when carrying, I would think I would make damn sure my house was also locked every night (yah never know when the "Elders" or "sisters" may come a-knockin' with their backpacks and bicycles... and convert yah with their promises of your own planet in the afterlife Or worse yet, the "solar" dealers or exterminators... I'll be honest, I can't count how many times I'm getting knocks on the door by people claiming they did the lawn care for this house for the previous owner. Guy had a payroll of 14 different companies if I believe what they tell me!). Alarmed, too. Hell, I can't count (yes, I like to count) the times I've circled back around to make sure the garage was closed and it didn't "pop" up for some electrical reason. That may be me, though. What do the other pro-carriers think? Am I the only one that is confused by this math?[/QUOTE]

Everyone has their own way of living but if my Daughter is home, my house is locked. If I'm gone or alone, often unlocked. Not much of a burglary problem here and everything is insured. If a friend may need something it doesn't bother me to leave it open. (Although, to be honest, I lock the keys to my Porsche in one of the safes. I trust my friends with my house, tools, etc. but not so much with my car...)
The gun, I wear all the time. If you carry a gun it needs to be very natural/normal and familiar. I don't believe I'll ever have to produce it in public but I would never bet my life or my Daughters life on that.