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		|  05-08-2016, 10:46 AM | #1 |  
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					Originally Posted by mavis.d  Just the response I was expecting I'm not looking from any hill but it's all down to the law of demimishing returns if you have a stick I'll get a bigger oneOh btw please tell your president to mind his own business and stop telling me how to vote in a national election if  the boot was on the other foot I'm sure it wouldn't go down too well
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If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong. 
 
"My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first. 
 
And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.
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		|  05-08-2016, 11:08 AM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by jdraupp  If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong. 
 "My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first.
 
 And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.
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		|  05-08-2016, 11:58 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by jdraupp  If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong. 
 "My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first.
 
 And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.
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Wow a reasonable human being what a comment if my comment is snotty what is yours? 
I respect ever body's right to be themselves. Surely that's part of being a democracy. 
The point I'm trying to make is that if you carry a big stick someone else is going to catty a bigger one. If you decriminalise guns all that will be left will be the illegal ones so in that sense your up ship creek without a paddle. 
I have no distain for you or your country and maybe I don't understand why you feel the need the bear arms but what I do know is that I live in a major city and can sleep well in my bed at night or drive around with the roof down where I want. 
I know that there a number of countries in the world that have worse gun problems than yours but is that anything to be proud of?
 
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		|  05-08-2016, 12:14 PM | #4 |  
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			On a separate note I don't envy your choice, Trump or Clinton   [/QUOTE]
 
From the country that just elected a Muslim mayor for London. Let us know how that works out for you.
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		|  05-08-2016, 12:26 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by CHRISP357  On a separate note I don't envy your choice, Trump or Clinton   |  
From the country that just elected a Muslim mayor for London. Let us know how that works out for you.[/QUOTE]
 
A free vote is just that why should a Muslim politician be any worse or better than any other
 
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		|  05-08-2016, 12:23 PM | #6 |  
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