A place for my piece

[CHRISP357]

Originally Posted by Giller

Well said. If someone already has a gun pointed at you, it's far too late and doesn't matter where your gun is.

Sheesh, just give up the wallet and live to tell about it.

Like a good little victim. Boy, that'll help put a stop to crime!
SMDH

[Giller]

Originally Posted by CHRISP357

Like a good little victim. Boy, that'll help put a stop to crime!
SMDH

Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.

[CHRISP357]

Originally Posted by Giller

Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.

Day dream about Utopia much? Australia disarmed all of their victims and murder rates with guns are up 7 percent and armed robberies are up 44 percent. Places like the UK, where they haven't allowed the lower caste to own guns forever, don't really count. (Although crimes with edged weapons are up massively) Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes. The only country in the world with decreasing crime? Yep. Right here.
Side note, I can guarantee no crime against myself or my daughter will be any where near as easy for the bad guys as it would be against you.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by CHRISP357

Day dream about Utopia much? Australia disarmed all of their victims and murder rates with guns are up 7 percent and armed robberies are up 44 percent. Places like the UK, where they haven't allowed the lower caste to own guns forever, don't really count. (Although crimes with edged weapons are up massively) Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes. The only country in the world with decreasing crime? Yep. Right here.
Side note, I can guarantee no crime against myself or my daughter will be any where near as easy for the bad guys as it would be against you.

Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes? Where do you get that stat from?

You can talk about reducing crime in the states all you like, it is still far far far higher than countries who don't allow guns.

Unfortunately, all the facts and stats show it is far safer to live unarmed than armed.

If you want to argue it's your right, go ahead. I'm not taking that away. I'm just talking facts. Yes, it's your right. But don't try to pretend it's safer when it clearly isn't.

[CHRISP357]

Originally Posted by Giller

Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes? Where do you get that stat from?

You can talk about reducing crime in the states all you like, it is still far far far higher than countries who don't allow guns.

Unfortunately, all the facts and stats show it is far safer to live unarmed than armed.

If you want to argue it's your right, go ahead. I'm not taking that away. I'm just talking facts. Yes, it's your right. But don't try to pretend it's safer when it clearly isn't.

Facts and statistics are very easy to learn in this modern world. The problem is, you lefties don't like facts.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by CHRISP357

Facts and statistics are very easy to learn in this modern world. The problem is, you lefties don't like facts.

Won't argue that I'm centre left....but you still haven't answered the question about facts. Show me how the US is safer with all those handguns vs. countries that don't allow handguns?

If you want to argue you have a right to carry, go ahead, I won't argue. But to argue your country is safer because of it - I will argue that cause it is simply not true.

** "According to a StatsCan report – the U.S. suffered a total of 8,813 murders involving the use of firearms that year. Canada, in the same year, recorded just 172 firearms-related homicides.

“When looking at firearm-related homicide rates in comparable countries, Canada’s rate is about seven times lower than that of the United States (3.5 per 100,000 population)"

[Beer]

Actually, if you remove the homicides by guns in the US committed in high gun control cities like Chicago, Maryland, NYC, San Fran, etc, the US drops to fourth from the bottom. There's your proof.

I keep my pistol in the door.

Originally Posted by Giller

Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.

[Beer]

If you remove the gun homicides from the US cities with the most restrictive gun laws the US drops to fourth from the bottom of homicides by gun. Simple proof.

Our society is much different from other countries. Comparing different societies is fruitless.

Originally Posted by Giller

Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.