Slow drivers move over- Hooray Indiana

[Timco]

Originally Posted by san rensho

Why are you such a bicycle hater? Go to any 4 way stop intersection and how many cars make a complete, wheel not turning stop? You say none stopped? You're right.

Bicyclists make up a tiny portion of traffic violations yet you focus on them. You are hating the wrong people.

Bike riders can be huge jerks. Dart through parks and over sidewalks, cruise straight through stop signs without even doing the fake stop thing, ride in the road on mountain roads and not give right of way to a car, and so on.

Not a hater, but there's some real sense of entitlement and you need to see me attitude.

[Retroman1969]

Originally Posted by Timco

Bike riders can be huge jerks. Dart through parks and over sidewalks, cruise straight through stop signs without even doing the fake stop thing, ride in the road on mountain roads and not give right of way to a car, and so on.

Not a hater, but there's some real sense of entitlement and you need to see me attitude.

^^This right here!
I happen to be an avid bicyclist myself and used to train and race in my 20s. Doesn't stop me from being.... Shall we say, "disenchanted" with the jerk bikers that do everything mentioned above. It puts motorists in jeopardy to have to anticipate and deal with that behavior. It's about time someone cracks down on them.
So I'm not a hater, so stop being such a blind reactionist, SR!

[Frodo]

Yeah, the left-lane cruisers make me insane…and I don’t give a rat’s azz if they’re doing the speed limit and feel like, because of that fact, they have no need to get out of the way when someone approaches from behind and wants to pass. It is not their responsibility or duty to enforce the traffic laws---they have no such authority. So get out of the way already. In my book, if you’re in the left lane and not making reasonable progress in passing vehicles in the lane to your right, you need to move over.

To NOT do so creates at least two situations, both of which have the potential to be a big problem. One is that you force people wanting to pass to weave in and out of traffic in ways that makes lots of people uncomfortable, since in doing so one typically (of necessity) minimizes following distances---buffer zones---between cars. Worse, you antagonize people who sometime get so inflamed they end up in near-misses or actual accidents (like the Camaro in the link). Road rage is a truly ugly thing---angry people in turn make the other guy angry and it escalates. Common sense and clear-headed driving go right out the window, often with disastrous results. And if it involves a driver who’s armed, sometimes people even get SHOT in the process. It’s all bad.

That said, I do agree with the sentiment behind the question raised earlier: “Now which is the ‘passing lane’ again?” At some point, in some locations, at some times during the day there becomes a volume of traffic that forces, of necessity, use of the left lane as just another corridor of traffic. Nobody’s pretty much passin’ nobody in those situations---largely vehicles just kind of move as one big mass. But once traffic thins to the point where someone in the left lane can move to the right to allow someone else to pass, they really should do so. Being a dick is just counter-productive. Heck, just mover over long enough to let me pass. THEN you can go back to monopolizing the left lane…til someone else needs to pass you.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Retroman1969

^^This right here!
I happen to be an avid bicyclist myself and used to train and race in my 20s. Doesn't stop me from being.... Shall we say, "disenchanted" with the jerk bikers that do everything mentioned above. It puts motorists in jeopardy to have to anticipate and deal with that behavior. It's about time someone cracks down on them.
So I'm not a hater, so stop being such a blind reactionist, SR!

Not a hater either. Bicycles are supposed to follow the same laws as a motor vehicle including stop signs, traffic lights, signaling a turn, etc. When was te last time you saw a bicyclist signal a turn?

I love it the rare times I have seen cop ticketing one,generally for running a stop sign or light. Bikes not stopping can cause an accident behind the dumb ass.

I can understand a little when they are pumping up a hill with momentum and there is a stop sign in the middle of it and no one around, but geeze, going down a hill or on the flats ???