05-28-2019, 06:35 AM
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And we're lighter by nearly two kilos! Yeeehaw!
With all seriousness, I STRONGLY recommend everyone to get rid of the rods for the electric roof and use it manually:
- it's FASTER (about 3 times!)
- it's elegant and silent (no loud motor buzzing)
- it's SAFE (if you had.... problems.... before - you know. Torn roof material, bent/broken roof lid, torn water trays, etc.)
The roof lid does not open or flap on bumps and/or high speed. In fact, it's shut tight under the weight of the downforce when you're cruising. The ONLY inconvenience you may experience is this: if you raise the lid after you close the doors (i.e. a passer by fuc*ing with your parked car? ouch!), the alarm will come off.
I'm feeling fantastic that I solved the roof question FOREVER.
Last edited by palmhero; 05-28-2019 at 06:40 AM.
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05-28-2019, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palmhero
And we're lighter by nearly two kilos! Yeeehaw!
With all seriousness, I STRONGLY recommend everyone to get rid of the rods for the electric roof and use it manually:
- it's FASTER (about 3 times!)
- it's elegant and silent (no loud motor buzzing)
- it's SAFE (if you had.... problems.... before - you know. Torn roof material, bent/broken roof lid, torn water trays, etc.)
The roof lid does not open or flap on bumps and/or high speed. In fact, it's shut tight under the weight of the downforce when you're cruising. The ONLY inconvenience you may experience is this: if you raise the lid after you close the doors (i.e. a passer by fuc*ing with your parked car? ouch!), the alarm will come off.
I'm feeling fantastic that I solved the roof question FOREVER.
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care to elaborate on what exactly you have done here? are you saying that the entire hood has to now be put up and down by hand, including lifting up the back hood cover metal thing?
i'm guessing its not very elegant as you say, its hardly going to be MX5 type of speed and ease to hood up and down?
or am i missing what you have done here...?
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05-28-2019, 07:37 AM
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I got a new set of tires today. Michelin Pilot Sport 4S from Costco. They currently have $70 off a set of 4 tires plus a $60 Costco gift card on top of their already low prices which also include a 5 year road hazard warranty. And they fill the tires with pure nitrogen instead of air which is only 70% nitrogen  ! I've bought tires from Costco before for my other cars and they've always done a great job, but never bought tires for the Boxster from them. I was a little concerned since I just had my wheels refinished but they didn't nick them at all so I'm very happy. Total cost including NJ sales tax was $946 for the 4 18 inch tires and will be $886 when I receive my $60 Costco card in 4-6 weeks.
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05-28-2019, 09:14 AM
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I removed all push rods, V-levers, and ball-end rods. Back lid and convertible top are now manual. The whole operation is a lot faster than with an electric motor. You unlatch the roof, get out of the car, raise the lid, lower the roof (neither of them is any heavier than a briefcase), lower the lid and that's it. 10sec maybe, and not minutes like the automatic mode. Observing the damage done to the V-rods... I can safely say this mechanism can not work well. It uses excessive force, applying it to a super fragile soft top. If it's working on your car, good - but it's only a matter of time till the electric motor breaks your roof, bringing a very costly $1000ish repair. Yes, that also usually happens... when rain starts.
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05-28-2019, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by palmhero
10sec maybe, and not minutes like the automatic mode.
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If yours was taking minutes - then there was something seriously wrong. The published number is 12 seconds, which seems accurate.
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05-28-2019, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palmhero
I removed all push rods, V-levers, and ball-end rods. Back lid and convertible top are now manual. The whole operation is a lot faster than with an electric motor. You unlatch the roof, get out of the car, raise the lid, lower the roof (neither of them is any heavier than a briefcase), lower the lid and that's it. 10sec maybe, and not minutes like the automatic mode. Observing the damage done to the V-rods... I can safely say this mechanism can not work well. It uses excessive force, applying it to a super fragile soft top. If it's working on your car, good - but it's only a matter of time till the electric motor breaks your roof, bringing a very costly $1000ish repair. Yes, that also usually happens... when rain starts.
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So many things wrong, here...
Auto top takes about 12 seconds, not minutes (plus you don't have to get out of the car).
I can safely say the mechanism does work well. Mine is 20 years old and still works perfectly. Doing regular maintenance and lubing things helps.
I'm glad you like it, because that's what matters. 
No way I'd trade my beautifully working electric top for manual.
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05-28-2019, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palmhero
I removed all push rods, V-levers, and ball-end rods. Back lid and convertible top are now manual. The whole operation is a lot faster than with an electric motor. You unlatch the roof, get out of the car, raise the lid, lower the roof (neither of them is any heavier than a briefcase), lower the lid and that's it. 10sec maybe, and not minutes like the automatic mode. Observing the damage done to the V-rods... I can safely say this mechanism can not work well. It uses excessive force, applying it to a super fragile soft top. If it's working on your car, good - but it's only a matter of time till the electric motor breaks your roof, bringing a very costly $1000ish repair. Yes, that also usually happens... when rain starts.
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I turned mine to manual mode like you did because the rod ends had broke, damaged the drain pans and the messed up my CLU (previous owner). Luckily it starts, runs and drives great, and getting better with all the TLC I'm doing. I still have many electrical gremlins I need to get sorted out (alarm, FOBs / auto locks, electric windows won't roll down etc.). Qumulus on here rebuilds the CLUs with great success and I intend to have him repair the CLU when I get around to it. That should address most of the electrical issues.
While I agree that it's pretty easy to get the top up and down in manual mode, I would have liked to have kept it in auto. It's on my list to rehab this function eventually. But not a priority at the moment.
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05-28-2019, 02:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Bulgaria
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it will destroy the car again. I can show you how much damage it did to very heavy duty parts. This thing in insanely overpowered in 986.
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05-29-2019, 05:38 AM
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in fact, the ball end of the push rods on my 1998 car was METAL. I want to ************************ kill whoever did that "upgrade/repair"! Had to use a long file to release it. Also I have no idea how it was possible to even attach it there, the diameter being narrower than the ball. This should have been one of the reasons why the whole mechanism got destroyed, when the least durable component is suddenly changed to the most durable one, then the rest goes to hell. But in my specific case, the big reason was the left side electric defunct motor after being flooded (the dude I bought the Boxster from had no idea about the clogged water drain holes, and thought the swooshing sound was from the water pump.......)
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05-29-2019, 09:14 AM
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05-29-2019, 09:55 AM
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Beautifully done like all your modifications !!!!
When will the new front bumper appear?
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05-29-2019, 10:16 AM
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Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by A8ked
Beautifully done like all your modifications !!!!
When will the new front bumper appear?
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Thanks! Getting it tomorrow Got my fingers crossed its OK
Last edited by JBauer; 05-29-2019 at 10:19 AM.
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06-01-2019, 03:44 PM
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Peelers look nice! I always loved them on certain Audi's, they look good on the snake.
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06-03-2019, 09:28 AM
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Very nice Cayman hardtop. Ouch, its price bites! But I am looking forward to buying one in the long run.
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05-29-2019, 10:03 AM
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WALDMEISTER
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Germany
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Looks awesome. Did you test drive it a bit, to see if it is wobbly at higher speeds?
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05-29-2019, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BRAN
Looks awesome. Did you test drive it a bit, to see if it is wobbly at higher speeds?
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Thank you! Not yet, probably later today 🤞
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05-30-2019, 02:16 PM
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Finished the refurb, paint and install of my Aerokit I side skirts. perfect understated look I was going for.
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#317 550 Spyder Anniversary Edition 2004 Boxster S, 3.8L Flat Six Innovations engine, PSS9s, etc, etc . . .
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05-30-2019, 03:12 PM
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05-30-2019, 06:11 PM
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Love the spoiler...looks great
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05-30-2019, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldcarguy
Finished the refurb, paint and install of my Aerokit I side skirts. perfect understated look I was going for.

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Looks great. Where did you buy the Aerokit I side skirts from?
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